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[bigred]

Wasn't at the game due to working but it didn't sound like a good performance at all!
I fear we will struggle to get out of this division if we are going to be losing to sides like Rochdale. Those are games we should really be winning!
Looking forward to comments from those who attended the game later.

[beacs]

I was at the game , and i will keep it simple , we was CHEATED , first try for rochdale was forward by a a yard , second half fights broke out , we had Thompson sent to sin bin even though he was the victim of a punch up by their number 15 , it was a DISGUSTING performance by the referee , hopefully this game will be reported to the RFL and the referee downgraded to conference level where he belongs

[boro hornet]

[vikings85]

Wasn't at the game due to working but it didn't sound like a good performance at all!
I fear we will struggle to get out of this division if we are going to be losing to sides like Rochdale. Those are games we should really be winning!
Looking forward to comments from those who attended the game later.

Sides like Rochdale - The same Rochdale that finished above you last year and knocked you out of the playoffs

[Ex-scrumhalf]

Dear oh dear oh dear. What a complete and utter shambles this game was, and you can't blame the referee for a total lack of ideas and enthusiasm. He made errors yes but even had he not I can't see how Oldham could have won. It was dire, indeed dire is probably not the word I'm looking for, more like diarrhoea!

First game back for a long long time for me and was looking forward to watching a team that was unbeaten at the top of the league. All I can say is that there must be some pretty poor sides out there.

How we failed to take an easy two points early in the second half to level up the game I do not know, poor captaincy or coaching? and the standard of play was pathetic to say the least. Passes were sent at half pace and at shoulder height or above, no runners to be seen, forwards going in at walking pace and backs who to me didn't appear to have much of a clue let alone any pace to speak of, Lucas apart.

Dallimore was, possibly, the best man in an Oldham shirt but he was constantly left without options by the lack of support. My colleague said Oldham needed a Mike Ford to make them tick but even he couldn't have done anything with this lot around him.

It's a shame really because I have been thinking of coming back but on this performance I don't think so. Oldham have wasted the league points and an opportunity to get some fans back. Promotion would seem to be a distant reality after this.

I am not joking when I say that there were amateur teams around in Oldham in the 1960s who could have wiped the floor with this team, in fact with both teams as Rochdale were only marginally better.

I felt quite sorry for a bunch of lads sat close to me who seemed to have the passion I had for Oldham over 53 years until I gave up watching in 2007. You have to be especially sorry because they have probably only watched Oldham for the last ten years and haven't even experienced what we older folk would say were only average sides in the seventies and eighties. But my goodness those relatively average sides of those times would have run in 80 points and more against both of these sides. Sorry to be negative but as someone with playing experience and the benefit of watching rugby in Oldham since 1954 I think I have the right to voice my opinion. Prove me wrong please but how you will do that I really don't know.

[Mad Mal the Mauler]

Mike Ford? Henry Ford would have trouble getting that lot started?

[The Art of Hand and Foot]

Right, lets get the obvious out of the way before we come to real reason we lost. The officials all of them had a shocker, but that goes for both sides, not just us. He allowed forward passes from both teams, it was unfortunate that one of their forward passes led to a try. As for the sin binning???? We got the penalty and a player sin binned ????? Meanwhile the officials where looking at each other shrugging their shoulders because that hadn't got a clue who threw the punch!!! It was number 15. I was too busy being incenced to notice whether he put the incident on report, if he did then their number 15 won't be playing for a while.

Now the real reason we lost....... we were rubbish. Tactically inept, long looping passes, that hovered in the air, aimed toward the second runner who was too far back to be effective. In fact it was rare that we made, never mind broke, the advantage line. We were going back on every occassion. Hornets had really only 4 attacks and scored on each occasion. If it wasn't for Bainsey missing 4 kicks, one a sitter, then we would have been out of it much earlier.

We had a number of opportunities to pull level with penalties and chose kick for touch????????

Always come away with something!!!!


Also some of our final passes were going astray, we looked desperate to score rather than hang on to the ball.

This was not the same team of recent performances and if this is the best Hornets can do then their only hope is that their opponents all play this badly.


We had a number of bad luck incidents, the early injury to Roden and what on Earth was happenning on the bench when Greenwood was in obvious distress? Took the physio a good few plays before coming on.

On the bright side we got a bonus point, how? I have no idea because we didn't deserve it.

We are now third behind workington and Barrow all on 10 points. Followed by Doncaster and Hornets on 9 points.

Edited by The Art of Hand and Foot, 06 April 2012 - 04:10 PM.

[Yonner]

Right, lets get the obvious out of the way before we come to real reason we lost. The officials all of them had a shocker, but that goes for both sides, not just us. He allowed forward passes from both teams, it was unfortunate that one of their forward passes led to a try. As for the sin binning???? We got the penalty and a player sin binned ????? Meanwhile the officials where looking at each other shrugging their shoulders because that hadn't got a clue who threw the punch!!! It was number 15. I was too busy being incenced to notice whether he put the incident on report, if he did then their number 15 won't be playing for a while.

Now the real reason we lost....... we were rubbish. Tactically inept, long looping passes, that hovered in the air, aimed toward the second runner who was too far back to be effective. In fact it was rare that we made, never mind broke, the advantage line. We were going back on every occassion. Hornets had really only 4 attacks and scored on each occasion. If it wasn't for Bainsey missing 4 kicks, one a sitter, then we would have been out of it much earlier.

We had a number of opportunities to pull level with penalties and chose kick for touch????????

Always come away with something!!!!


Also some of our final passes were going astray, we looked desperate to score rather than hang on to the ball.

This was not the same team of recent performances and if this is the best Hornets can do then their only hope is that their opponents all play this badly.


We had a number of bad luck incidents, the early injury to Roden and what on Earth was happenning on the bench when Greenwood was in obvious distress? Took the physio a good few plays before coming on.

On the bright side we got a bonus point, how? I have no idea because we didn't deserve it.

All of the above and what Ex Scrum said earlier ...2nd best right across the park apart from young Dallimore....

Not that it really matters but the shameful antics of ballboys only giving quick ball to Hornets and placing it on the floor for Oldham ... as well as "Losing" the ball's for Oldham restarts stink .. very disappointed in all the rubbish after the final whistle ... time was that was all forgotten at 80 min's ...but not today !

[rugbyman1]

Poor performance, there is no doubt about that.I've defended the coaching team in the past but have to say today looked like poor preparation, lack of a plan in defence or attack and most worrying no sign of any ability to change tack during the match.

Rochdale looked more motivated, had a mile more go-forward and a coach who was on his game. Oldham, well, lacked ideas, no sign of inspiration from the sidelines. Maybe beleived our own press a bit too much recently. Lets hope the lads reflect on this wehen they're out and about in Oldham over the weekend!! Saw the reserves as well last night and the 1st teamers led by example so maybe all is not lost. But on the up side we've more points than this time last year and this will be a highly competitive season and so just need to keep taking points when we can. The bonus point is well received and could be the difference come autumn.

Roll on next week!

[tub]

Agree with most of the posts ,we were garbage today and lacked all of the the energy and effort we showed against Barrow,this was a serious wake up call!

Don't blame the ref , whoever came up with the stupid chant "We're Oldham and we'll score when we want" must be deluded, the forwards were second best and without this platform it showed up the fact that without Roden we are clueless in attack.

Amazingly we led at half time by 2 but I have to question TB as to why we we came out in the 2nd half and played just as poorly or why he didn't change things around ,Whitty's a decent 9 but never a 7.

Also where is our half back cover, we have a large squad and a reserve team yet no plan for when Rats get's an injury, this has happened in the past !

On this form both Rochdale and Oldham will be visiting Northampton Demons next season !!

[Antisuperleague]

The side has been crying out for cover for Roden for years. Every side we play against knows take Roden out and we are clueless.
It's obvious we have a decent plan A with Roden but we don't have a plan B. PLease do something about it quick or the club is doomed.
Yesterday's following was tremendous it's a shame the rugby was so poor.
I still live in hope that this was a blip, a wake up call whatever you want to call it - our next game will show if it was.

[HARRYRUBY]

Agree with most of the posts. As soon as Roden went off we had problems. Chris Hough bossed our half backs with his experience.
We need cover for Roden as whitmore is not a half back. Hornets were tackling like demons on their own line and we could not break through.
So to go for a tap penalty three times in good positions for Dallimore to kick was either bad coaching from the touch lines or bad decisions by the
captain.

As for the referee, sure he made some poor decisions but he was badly let down by his officials. In the brawl one told the ref that the first punch
was thrown by a Rochdale player who at the time was in the dug out. What is the ref supposed to do in that situation. The sin bin was for
retaliation.

After three wins it brought us down to earth.This is going to be a hard division to get out. Hornets were the best team and deserved to win and in
every game this season we will have to be at our best. There wont be many easy games.

[oldhamer]

Disapointing result on Friday, but give credit where credit is due. Hornets defended very well and attacked the Oldham defence with more conviction than we did. But saying that, losing Rats very early on meant a reshuffle that would disrupt most teams and game plans. I guess people would say that the team has to be more flexible, but to lose an influential figure like Rats with a new injury was a bad blow to the side. Oldham did look clueless at times, but in fairness, credit must be given to the Hornets players for not allowing Dally and Whitty more time on the ball, even though both players, like the rest of the team played their socks off. Barrow last week were very slow to get back onside after a quick play the ball, allowing both halves to dominate, yet Hornets were much smarter in that area and defended better. I think its unfair to be critical of any of the players on Friday, especially after the tough game last Sunday, unlike Hornets game against the Crusaders. To me, the old adage of "Playing as good as the opposition allows you" springs to mind.
On another note, the officals were absolutely rank on Friday. From sin binning Thompson, and allowing the Hornets player to continue was diabolocal. Not to sin bin or red card a Hornets player was madness, even if he had got the wrong man. The whole team has to be penalised for that action, as it was foul play. Also,when Hornets kicked through late in the second half, and the ball landed on the line, which to the rule book is out on the full! Not according to the linesman who said it was in! The tackle at the end had to be made, the player was still in play. With 8 points difference, what would of happened if the player decieded to change direction and run 60m to score to deny Oldham a bonus point? If in the field of play, the tackle should still be made, which it was.

[roytonyed]

Just for the record, for those like me baying out number fifteen, his name was Adam Bowman.

Adam Bowman.

[TOSH1960]

Just for the record, for those like me baying out number fifteen, his name was Adam Bowman.

Adam Bowman.

If Cloughie gets a ban and no action is taken against Bowman the game of Rugby League has a weird sense of justice.

[roytonyed]

Just for the record, for those like me baying out number fifteen, his name was Adam Bowman.

Adam Bowman.

Where did the other two thirds of the content of my posting go?

In future I must remember to allege.

Allegedly this is Adam Bowman:-

http://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/team_member.php?id=403