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#81 CANETMAN

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 03:48 PM

That John Steele bloke who did a great job at the RFU, I wouldn't mind seeing him joining the RFL, maybe not as head, but join a new committee.



Dream on,i fully expect the current regime to cement their positions nothing will change.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 03:57 PM

Dream on,i fully expect the current regime to cement their positions nothing will change.

Thats the worse thing that could happen. But the most likely. Would be great if there was a new broom. Get rid of all the dead wood (pun not intended), and get the power back from the clubs for SL.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:22 PM

So someone who can get the best for his club whether Leeds, Hull or Sheffield.

Why not put him in charge of the RFL so he can continue that record of getting the best for whoever he's in charge of?

"Carrying baggage" is a bit of a slogan with respect, and when you look at it, it's actually pretty positive baggage....



Because he is the least unbiased person on the planet.

Edited by bird, 13 April 2012 - 12:22 PM.


#84 John Rhino

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:23 PM

He may well have the ability but he carries far too much baggage. Remember the pre-SL "2nd Div" with 8 teams paying each other 4 times a year "to prepare clubs for promotion". Total flop but suited his Sheffield club. Loads of initiatives since but they always had Leed in mind. Not to mention the Hull/Gatesshead "merger".

sounds like the perfect CV to me.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:36 PM

So someone who can get the best for his club whether Leeds, Hull or Sheffield.

Why not put him in charge of the RFL so he can continue that record of getting the best for whoever he's in charge of?

"Carrying baggage" is a bit of a slogan with respect, and when you look at it, it's actually pretty positive baggage....


However, having a wife also heavily involved would be a significant conflict of interest. That is not a minor factor when it comes to credibility.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:23 PM

He's done a good job, lets bring in a high achiever from outside the game and who hasn't got a northern accent.


Didn't I read somewhere that Tony Blair used to stand on the terraces at Central Park watchingLewis Jones and the Drake brothers scatter all before them?

He seems quiet lately - maybe he'd like a real challenge instead of this Middle East stuff?
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:31 PM

However, having a wife also heavily involved would be a significant conflict of interest. That is not a minor factor when it comes to credibility.


Yes I forgot about Kath, but AFAIK she's no longer running Hull and her experience will merely add to the CV. The lads a long history in the game in all sorts of capacities, and has been very succesful.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:46 PM

For information: what do you mean by hierarchy-free?


A league where Leeds and Wigan don't perennially succeed by virtue of being Leeds and Wigan. A league with better competitive balance than currently, by way of self-sufficient teams in areas that guarantee good-sized fanbases even in moderate or poor on-field periods.

In a nutshell.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:27 AM

Speak for yourself.

He's steered Leeds to be the ultimate model for a Superleague club.

His record is exemplary.

He knows the game inside out had fantastic experience and achievement, and I can't think of anyone better.

Trouble is so many people who don't like Leeds slag him off for no other reason he's successful with Leeds then everyone goes around thinking he's no good.

Hetherington would be my choice by a country mile

If Hetherington were to get the position it would be a calamity for Rugby League, It's bad enough that his chums occupy so many of the key positions within the game to begin with. A shadow hangs over the performance of Hetherington's partner at the Hull club, inevitably, whether it is fair or unfair, some of this shadow must fall in the direction of himself.

In my opinion, Gary Hetherington typifies just the kind of administrator that has held our game back for 117 years and definitely does not need - a short-sighted, self interested, negative, whingeing, glass-half-empty, parochial Yorkshireman who believes that the world starts at his front door and ends at his back gate - a traditional flat-capper trying to masquerade as a progressive expansionist - in all these respects he is just like you Parky and that is why you find him such an attractive candidate. As for the rest of us, we can see that Hetherington is definitely not the man for the job and I sincerly hope that he gets nowhere near it, ever.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:42 AM

If Hetherington were to get the position it would be a calamity for Rugby League, It's bad enough that his chums occupy so many of the key positions within the game to begin with. A shadow hangs over the performance of Hetherington's partner at the Hull club, inevitably, whether it is fair or unfair, some of this shadow must fall in the direction of himself.

In my opinion, Gary Hetherington typifies just the kind of administrator that has held our game back for 117 years and definitely does not need - a short-sighted, self interested, negative, whingeing, glass-half-empty, parochial Yorkshireman who believes that the world starts at his front door and ends at his back gate - a traditional flat-capper trying to masquerade as a progressive expansionist - in all these respects he is just like you Parky and that is why you find him such an attractive candidate. As for the rest of us, we can see that Hetherington is definitely not the man for the job and I sincerly hope that he gets nowhere near it, ever.


I think the above is a little harsh on Gary Hetherington. For all his faults, he took a club from nothing to Challenge Cup winners in 15 years. I'm not particularly a fan of his but what he did with Sheffield doesn't really warrant the description given imho.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:42 AM

In my opinion, Gary Hetherington typifies just the kind of administrator that has held our game back for 117 years


He started Sheffield who ended in SL winning the Cup - Who else has ever managed to take a club from nowhere and send it on towards that??

He left for Leeds and turned them round. They are thr model for all clubs money wise.

They are the model for all clubs young player wise.

He's an articulate, perceptive, intelligent, analytic, and forward thinking man with a fantastic record in the game.

You epitomise the dreadful bias and ill thought out assessment that is show towards one of the games biggest achievers. As for pot shots at his missus.......

Anyway that's all yer getting - live with it.

Edited by The Parksider, 14 April 2012 - 08:42 AM.


#92 Bitofaboogie

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:06 AM

He started Sheffield who ended in SL winning the Cup - Who else has ever managed to take a club from nowhere and send it on towards that??

He left for Leeds and turned them round. They are thr model for all clubs money wise.

They are the model for all clubs young player wise.

He's an articulate, perceptive, intelligent, analytic, and forward thinking man with a fantastic record in the game.

You epitomise the dreadful bias and ill thought out assessment that is show towards one of the games biggest achievers. As for pot shots at his missus.......

Anyway that's all yer getting - live with it.

You choose your facts very selectively, as usual.

And as usual you have your head in the sand about the facts that don't back up your case.

The last thing we want is a chief exec with clearly defined club affiliations, we've had one before and it caused chaos - this particular individual was argubly the game's biggest achiever ever and most of us would agree, in hindsight, that he was not the man for the job. I hope that lightning is not allowed to strike twice.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:57 PM

He started Sheffield who ended in SL winning the Cup - Who else has ever managed to take a club from nowhere and send it on towards that??

He left for Leeds and turned them round. They are thr model for all clubs money wise.

They are the model for all clubs young player wise.

He's an articulate, perceptive, intelligent, analytic, and forward thinking man with a fantastic record in the game.

You epitomise the dreadful bias and ill thought out assessment that is show towards one of the games biggest achievers. As for pot shots at his missus.......

Anyway that's all yer getting - live with it.

Just wondering if you'd like to change or at least qualify your comments in the light of the RFL Operational Rules Tribunal's decision regarding Leeds' signing of ex Hull player, Luke Briscoe - or perhaps you'd prefer to keep your head firmly in the sand?

Maybe a word with Mr Pearson, if you get the chance, might do you a power of good?

#94 GeordieSaint

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:49 PM

The new RL boss should have no ties to any of the professional clubs, past or present.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:13 AM

I agree totally. The new man in charge should be free fron club affiliation no matter how competent a man with club ties might be.

Furthermore they need to appoint such a person yesterday. The RLWC,and its just around the corner, is huge opportunity to put the game in the public spotlight but it needs a skilled organiser in charge. It seems to be going slightly off the rails at present.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 07:13 AM

The RLWC,and its just around the corner..... It seems to be going slightly off the rails at present.

How so?

#97 Steve May

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 07:14 AM

The greatest achievement of Richard Lewis has been the normalisation of the sport. Previously it was run on the hoof by bookies and carpet salesmen. Lewis was able to build a proper structure for the RFL and the game has benefited enormously.

The danger now is that the charlatans and shysters return and the game reverts to the state it was in before. There are ominous rumblings in that direction.

Which is precisely why the new guy needs to be an outsider again.
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#98 Stevo

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:37 AM

The greatest achievement of Richard Lewis has been the normalisation of the sport. Previously it was run on the hoof by bookies and carpet salesmen. Lewis was able to build a proper structure for the RFL and the game has benefited enormously.


:biggrin: You've nailed it.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:41 AM

I agree that an outsider would be the better option, as long as we can get the right person for the job. I have a lot of time for Hetherington and his achievements, but I'd prefer someone who can look at Rugby League without preconceptions and bring in new ideas.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:57 AM

How so?

Could it be this?
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