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[Blue Monkey]

We are approaching the point where the community needs to challenge both Ian Stewart and John Kidd along similar lines, i.e.: We have heard the words and those sound fine, but where is the DELIVERY? It is both desperately needed and long overdue!!

I'll echo these comments til the rafters ring. Let's make it happen, and happen SOONER rather than later, preferably before the end of this season/year. 1992 was a very long twenty years ago - and don't we all know it?
So, to all those concerned, let's put our shoulders to the wheel and make some ground (no pun intended).

[Bleep1673]

I thought we were supposed to be moving into our new home at Agecroft in April 2012!! Oh dear. I too fear it will never happen in my lifetime. I've resigned myself to LSV now.

The announcer on PS yesterday suggested we are playing at LSV all season, John Kidd seemed very evasive when interviewed about Agecroft, giving bland answers that David Cameron would be pleased of.

[Paul Davidson]

With less than four months to the final home game of the season of course we're playing at LSV all season. Get real - JK's not proposing an inflatable stadium!!
The key will be what we can tell the RFL at the beginning of next season.

[juliancaine]

With less than four months to the final home game of the season of course we're playing at LSV all season. Get real - JK's not proposing an inflatable stadium!!
The key will be what we can tell the RFL at the beginning of next season.

In my opinion it,ll be along the lines of we hope to start construction of a new stadium in jan 2013 with completion by april 2013 then nothing will happen as per usual. We have just got to face facts in this economic climate there isnt the money available to finance a stadium,

[Barnie]

Well i imagine that the planning application wont run smoothly as these things never do. i think 2015 might be a bit nearer the money.

[duffymoon]

I would imagine the RFL will need to be informed of our plans for next season well bewfore the end of the year! As I understand the planning process takers 12 weeks and the stadium build was quoted at 16 weeks thats 7 months assuming everything gos through without any problems.Would imagine we will be at the LSV at least for the start of the 2013 season.

[mark richardson]

The willows is standing empty....

[PhillH]

I would imagine the RFL will need to be informed of our plans for next season well bewfore the end of the year! As I understand the planning process takers 12 weeks and the stadium build was quoted at 16 weeks thats 7 months assuming everything gos through without any problems.Would imagine we will be at the LSV at least for the start of the 2013 season.

Planning Law has been overhauled very recently, so my understanding might be out of date but I previously understood the12 weeks figure to be the minimum period for public consultation, which is only one part of the overall process. Particularly if the proposal is called in for scrutiny by central government there could be considerable time lag. I don't know the details of what is going to be proposed for Agecroft, but aspects known to heighten the risk of a proposal getting called in by the Secretary of State include development classed as "out of town" and development on playing fields. So although Agecroft won't be nationally significant in terms of size, there has to be a risk to achieving the sort of timescales you quote, even after a proposal is finally submitted which it hasn't yet.

Wakefield's proposal for the Wildcats new ground suffered this fate and I believe they were told to expect a consequent delay of 12 months.

It is already pretty certain that Agecroft won't be ready for the start of the 2013 season and I'd be very surprised if at least one more entire season at LSV didn't prove to be necessary.

Ironically one of the main focusses for the new planning laws is to relax the constraints for developing on green belt, i.e. the previous supposed show stopper for the Wardley site.

[duffymoon]

Yes but with presumably the same problems that were identified at the back end of last season with regards to the security of the venue.

[juliancaine]

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Edited by juliancaine, 07 May 2012 - 03:49 PM.

[juliancaine]

as i said in a previous post the wardley site could easily incoporate a small ground for swinton, could the club not explore this possibility once again, to put all your eggs in an agecroft basket only in my opinion is wrong. the club should update fans regularly say once a month on the progress or lack of it, after all the promises and false dawns nothing regarding concrete planning permission or designs that have been published have yet to materialise, why?
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[Barnie]

Did any of the fans pay that £250. i thought that they would be getting updates o. the progress.

[duffymoon]

Julian Caine they are building a school on the Wardley site! so that is a definite NO!.I think FC United got planning permission in less than 12 weeks although I understand that project has envcountered difficulties.

[juliancaine]

Julian Caine they are building a school on the Wardley site! so that is a definite NO!.I think FC United got planning permission in less than 12 weeks although I understand that project has envcountered difficulties.

with a rugby pitch surely some stands could be put round it and use it as a small capacity ground for the lions and for the school/community to use.

Edited by juliancaine, 07 May 2012 - 05:03 PM.

[duffymoon]

If only it were that simple!