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, juin 11 2012 12:43
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#1
Posté 11 juin 2012 - 12:43
I think I have got this right (correct me if I'm wrong).
At the end of this season, the four top Championship 1 clubs get promoted to the Championship and no Championship teams get relegated. The remaining six Championship 1 clubs are joined by four new clubs for the 2013 season.
So what happens at the end of 2013 season?
At the end of this season, the four top Championship 1 clubs get promoted to the Championship and no Championship teams get relegated. The remaining six Championship 1 clubs are joined by four new clubs for the 2013 season.
So what happens at the end of 2013 season?
#2
Posté 11 juin 2012 - 01:24
I think I have got this right (correct me if I'm wrong).
At the end of this season, the four top Championship 1 clubs get promoted to the Championship and no Championship teams get relegated. The remaining six Championship 1 clubs are joined by four new clubs for the 2013 season.
So what happens at the end of 2013 season?
1 or 2 Clubs promoted and the same number relegated.
With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!
#3
Posté 11 juin 2012 - 03:02
I believe it's 2 up, 2 down from 2013 onwards. And if there are 10 clubs still surviving in 2013 in Championship 1 then I think they'll look at adding another 2 new clubs in 2015 (and then another 2 further down the line)
I did read 2 up,2 down in RL Express some time ago and somewhere else (cant remember now - 40/20 maybe).I've seen that there wont be any promotion posted around various forums but that seems to have petered out now into only 1 up,1 down. Maybe they're right but that's most probably the latest fallback position of the WE'RE ALL DOOMED brigade
I did read 2 up,2 down in RL Express some time ago and somewhere else (cant remember now - 40/20 maybe).I've seen that there wont be any promotion posted around various forums but that seems to have petered out now into only 1 up,1 down. Maybe they're right but that's most probably the latest fallback position of the WE'RE ALL DOOMED brigade
#4
Posté 11 juin 2012 - 04:15
What happens in 2013 is that crowds dwindle to a couple of hundred for the first few games then decrease even further over the rest of the season.
Any promotion becomes largely irrelevant as the club has contracted to such a degree that a professional rugby league team cannot be funded and the club will die.
This is what is so frustrating this season as the club is the only one that has chosen to run junior teams instead of investing all available funds into the first team.
I have been a season ticket holder for more than 30 years but it is likely this season will be my last.
The club has no ambition, no vision, and will soon have no fan base.
Any promotion becomes largely irrelevant as the club has contracted to such a degree that a professional rugby league team cannot be funded and the club will die.
This is what is so frustrating this season as the club is the only one that has chosen to run junior teams instead of investing all available funds into the first team.
I have been a season ticket holder for more than 30 years but it is likely this season will be my last.
The club has no ambition, no vision, and will soon have no fan base.
#5
Posté 11 juin 2012 - 04:56
i agree completely.What happens in 2013 is that crowds dwindle to a couple of hundred for the first few games then decrease even further over the rest of the season.
Any promotion becomes largely irrelevant as the club has contracted to such a degree that a professional rugby league team cannot be funded and the club will die.
This is what is so frustrating this season as the club is the only one that has chosen to run junior teams instead of investing all available funds into the first team.
I have been a season ticket holder for more than 30 years but it is likely this season will be my last.
The club has no ambition, no vision, and will soon have no fan base.
The club will be playing in a pub league next season,people can say what they want.Im not going to slag the fans off who go next season but i wont be one of them,number 1 i'll give nothing to CH,number 2 i aint paying 12 13 quid to watch amatuer rugby.
The man has brought the club to its knees,i draw the line at lining his pockets anymore.
Like i said kudos to those who will remain loyal to the end,i think the end of oldham rugby in even a semi professionla guise(as it is now)is on the horizon.
#6
Posté 11 juin 2012 - 09:22
Are there no play offs this year then? They would seem totally pointless.
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#7
Posté 12 juin 2012 - 08:06
There are play offs, but there is not a promotion place attached to them.
#8
Posté 12 juin 2012 - 10:55
What are we play offing for then?
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#9
Posté 12 juin 2012 - 10:58
Prize money, I would assume.
#10
Posté 12 juin 2012 - 11:13
Winners of the play offs would be deemed Ch1 league champions and get the prize money. That's all
So it's top four that's important
So it's top four that's important
One for all and all for the one
#11
Posté 12 juin 2012 - 03:41
I dont know about the other three but Hemel certainly wont be coming up to play as a pub team. Their current,amateur, lineup handles the ball better than Oldham do (from a sample of seeing both clubs twice so far this season). This expansion neednt be the death of anyone. I know it must be easy to be suicidally depressed being an Oldham rugby fan, you've had it heaped on you for many years now, but keep plugging away. Keep the faith, etc etc.
If the current four go up and leave you adrift then next year I think Oldham(all being well),Hornets,North Wales,Skolars,Hemel and possibly South Wales could all be of a decent standard. That's 60% of the league and hopefully the other four will come along in the years to come. Expansion isnt a bad thing.
If the current four go up and leave you adrift then next year I think Oldham(all being well),Hornets,North Wales,Skolars,Hemel and possibly South Wales could all be of a decent standard. That's 60% of the league and hopefully the other four will come along in the years to come. Expansion isnt a bad thing.
#12
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 04:24
Expansion isn't necessarily a bad thing but contraction is.I dont know about the other three but Hemel certainly wont be coming up to play as a pub team. Their current,amateur, lineup handles the ball better than Oldham do (from a sample of seeing both clubs twice so far this season). This expansion neednt be the death of anyone. I know it must be easy to be suicidally depressed being an Oldham rugby fan, you've had it heaped on you for many years now, but keep plugging away. Keep the faith, etc etc.
If the current four go up and leave you adrift then next year I think Oldham(all being well),Hornets,North Wales,Skolars,Hemel and possibly South Wales could all be of a decent standard. That's 60% of the league and hopefully the other four will come along in the years to come. Expansion isnt a bad thing.
It is much easier to lose a fan base than to create a new one.
There is a perception that heartland clubs are overlooked whilst funds are channelled into expansion areas.
Whilst I don't necessarily subscribe to this theory, there is no doubt that when the majority of opponents are "expansion" teams then any heartland club will suffer, perhaps terminally.
#13
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 05:11
Depends also on the amount that Mr Rimmer intends to reduce the NL1 central funding by which I suspect will hit heartland clubs (used to the higher rates).
Does anyone know the actual figures?
Does anyone know the actual figures?
#14
Posté 15 juin 2012 - 10:51
£70/75,000 I heard?
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#15
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 12:13
If that amount is correct then there are no problems cos that will cover C.Hs salary easily.
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