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[Marauder]

More to emphasise there's also a women's and juniors game? Though I'm not convinced either, but names including NW and Yorkshire were unavoidable

White & Red Rose and thats without really giving it a second thought.

[Marauder]

Interesting to read the posts of Mr Chairman, Just a personal oppinion I think its a shame that BARLA didnt have more guys of the forward thinking nature of Phil Johnson, Stuart Prior and Paul Williamson of the Cumberland league at the top table maybe then progress could have been made in key areas

Could be that the system in place was to blame for these guys not getting to the top or even work commitments, maybe these guys could be put in charge of running the proposed BARLA Conference.

[thestatman]

Not far to the Pennine league and a lot less distance than Hull. But there again 10 clubs voted against going into the summer and only went because they didn't want to be left behind, but now BARLA look to be coming up with a conference league for the better clubs left behind and those who may want to return.

But BARLA couldn't run the preverbal drinking session at a brewers - hence the reason that league after league first became only assoiciate members and then withdrew from BARLA altogether! Why would an established club with great facilities want to go back to playing pub teams at facilities that are sub-standard?

[bowes]

But BARLA couldn't run the preverbal drinking session at a brewers - hence the reason that league after league first became only assoiciate members and then withdrew from BARLA altogether! Why would an established club with great facilities want to go back to playing pub teams at facilities that are sub-standard?

I wouldn't be surprised if BARLA scare off the Pennine League at some point and be left with nothing when the latter runs the winter game.

[Marauder]

But BARLA couldn't run the preverbal drinking session at a brewers - hence the reason that league after league first became only assoiciate members and then withdrew from BARLA altogether! Why would an established club with great facilities want to go back to playing pub teams at facilities that are sub-standard?

You can play at wembley and if your outgoing are more than the incomings your not going to be playing anywhere after a time or dare I say from a pub.

Not all NCL sides play in a nice little ground either.

Edited by Marauder, 11 July 2012 - 06:52 PM.

[nadera78]

One statement that sums up everything that is wrong with RL. "We tried summer, for four months, and it's no good." Four months?

[Marauder]

One statement that sums up everything that is wrong with RL. "We tried summer, for four months, and it's no good." Four months?

What you need to understand if clubs have gone from break even to making a loss since going to the summer they will have to make a quick decision very quickly and it's really a no brainer.

[LONGMAN]

You can play at wembley and if your outgoing are more than the incomings your not going to be playing anywhere after a time or dare I say from a pub.

Not all NCL sides play in a nice little ground either.

Been to every NCL ground bar one, and they are of a better standard than most of the other leagues.

[LONGMAN]

The NCL isn't going back to winter anytime in the foreseeable future. Leigh East's current crop of players will not accept playing in the NWC League, so it strikes me that Mr.Johnson's comments may look a bit foolish come next February when Leigh East are still playing summer rugby in the NCL!

I totally agree with you statman, Leigh East and the other teams that are at present shall we say uncomfortable with the Summer debate, will not sudenly leave to player in other leagues.
The NCL will continue to play summer rugby irrespective what Marauder and the knockers think.

[casyorkie]

What you need to understand if clubs have gone from break even to making a loss since going to the summer they will have to make a quick decision very quickly and it's really a no brainer.

Thats not true you cannot judge a change in 4 months for the better or worse.If a club is now stuggling they will work to try and bring in new fundraisers.I agree at some point they might have to make hard decsisons but i think all claubs need to give it att least one season.

I t does make me wonder who made the decision at the clubs and any club that didnt ask ther players what they wanted i beleive were very foolish

[cheesecretary]

Will all clubs survive the season?

Our 'A' team again have no fixture this weekend think that is 1 game in 5 weeks now. Not good enough.

[gingerjon]

One statement that sums up everything that is wrong with RL. "We tried summer, for four months, and it's no good." Four months?

And, more particularly, this summer ...

[TaxiEgg]

It was always going to be a steep learning curve moving to Summer and I agree you cant throw the towel in after 4 months . But you have to look at the bigger picture and look to the long term future of the game.
If we dont learn by our mistakes we will lose the game ,i have raised concerns at the increased number of games lost even at junior level due to unavailabilty of coaches players etc since we switched to summer.
Looking at the open age game we also have a lot of games cancelled outside the Ncl FIRST teams, now ignore those alarm bells at your peril.
The RFL performance department have decimated the youth program this summer putting scholarship games as a priority to the community game which is absolute fecking madness despite all the advice from seasoned administrators .

The RFL dont come out of this with many brownie points do they ?

We as a game need to be solid let the Pros run their game but leave the amatuers to people who have an empathy of the aims and objectives of the community game.

[bowes]

It was always going to be a steep learning curve moving to Summer and I agree you cant throw the towel in after 4 months . But you have to look at the bigger picture and look to the long term future of the game.
If we dont learn by our mistakes we will lose the game ,i have raised concerns at the increased number of games lost even at junior level due to unavailabilty of coaches players etc since we switched to summer.
Looking at the open age game we also have a lot of games cancelled outside the Ncl FIRST teams, now ignore those alarm bells at your peril.
The RFL performance department have decimated the youth program this summer putting scholarship games as a priority to the community game which is absolute fecking madness despite all the advice from seasoned administrators .

The RFL dont come out of this with many brownie points do they ?

We as a game need to be solid let the Pros run their game but leave the amatuers to people who have an empathy of the aims and objectives of the community game.

The RFL are slashing back academy and scholarship next year. But I'd scrap scholarship entirely

[Marauder]

Been to every NCL ground bar one, and they are of a better standard than most of the other leagues.

Have Stanley removed their hill/mountain?

[Marauder]

Another point that will reflect on the bar taking is the supporters going away on holiday, I know the WMC we play from can take in an extra 1k when we are at home, so I suppose a pitch side clubhouse could double that.

[bowes]

Another point that will reflect on the bar taking is the supporters going away on holiday, I know the WMC we play from can take in an extra 1k when we are at home, so I suppose a pitch side clubhouse could double that.

We get about 200-300 when we play at the Butts but probably down to about 100 when we play at an amateur RU ground. Decent enough for an amateur club though I think.

[LONGMAN]

Have Stanley removed their hill/mountain?

No there still there, but great people and a nice friendly club hoiuse.

[samsung]

Another point that will reflect on the bar taking is the supporters going away on holiday, I know the WMC we play from can take in an extra 1k when we are at home, so I suppose a pitch side clubhouse could double that.

I would doubt very much that a club would regularly take more than £1K - let alone £2K - on the bar for a league game. If your games attract that many speccies to spend £2K, then I suggest you get your own clubhouse with bar, and quick!

[mr chairman]

i agree with mick , the pro game is killing the youth and junior game and have been doing for the past 5 years . but what concerns me the most is the RFL barla rift is worse now than its ever been and our game is dying because of it . i dont agree with mick a lot but his last post is spot on .
is it summer v winter or is it RFL v barla that is causing the most trouble , i think i know the answer to that