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#21 GeordieSaint

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 12:30 PM

I predict that players careers will be cut even shorter with the hard dry grounds.


The British weather, which incidentally has never been particularly scorching during the summer months, is changing.

http://www.guardian....her-cold-summer

Apr-May is generally decent and warm, Jun-Aug is very wet, and Sep-Oct is decent. However, each month, especially in the north are fairly wet with good amounts of rainfall. This is likely to increase even further in the future.

http://www.environme...r-or-cooler.htm

I predict as the icecaps melt further, the jet stream will push further south and produce sustained very wet periods in the UK (as seen this year). I also predict the North Atlantic Drift will collapse causing our winters to be become exceptional cold.

The relevance? Pitches will have a consistent amount of rainfall to keep them in reasonably good nick, especially if left with a good covering of grass but potentially come worse in winter, if the Gulf Stream collapses!

Edited by GeordieSaint, 05 August 2012 - 12:32 PM.


#22 LONGMAN

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:59 PM

The British weather, which incidentally has never been particularly scorching during the summer months, is changing.

http://www.guardian....her-cold-summer

Apr-May is generally decent and warm, Jun-Aug is very wet, and Sep-Oct is decent. However, each month, especially in the north are fairly wet with good amounts of rainfall. This is likely to increase even further in the future.

http://www.environme...r-or-cooler.htm

I predict as the icecaps melt further, the jet stream will push further south and produce sustained very wet periods in the UK (as seen this year). I also predict the North Atlantic Drift will collapse causing our winters to be become exceptional cold.

The relevance? Pitches will have a consistent amount of rainfall to keep them in reasonably good nick, especially if left with a good covering of grass but potentially come worse in winter, if the Gulf Stream collapses!


Oh Hell Marauder thats ######;; on your chips; now what are you going to moan at.

#23 Marauder

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 02:56 PM

Oh Hell Marauder thats ######;; on your chips; now what are you going to moan at.

Moaning, lol, Do you really expect the weather to change that drastically in the next couple of years and just because I don't see every thing rosey with what the RFL are doing with the amateur game, I agree the concept looks fine if your goal is super league, but it does nothing for the thousands of others who just want to play the game recreationally.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:43 PM

Moaning, lol, Do you really expect the weather to change that drastically in the next couple of years and just because I don't see every thing rosey with what the RFL are doing with the amateur game, I agree the concept looks fine if your goal is super league, but it does nothing for the thousands of others who just want to play the game recreationally.

So Marauder you think that the juniors would be better reverting back to the winter with kids shivering in games between December and February training in the wind, snow and hail. under poor floodlights. Or playing in the sunshine and training in the summer months in the daylight. just like their Super League hero's OH (hang on a minute) Maybe they want to be like their Grandads playing in 6 inches of mud in boots with leather studs maybe you could also contact steeden to see if they will make them a ball with a lace in it thats weighs about 2 stone,. and Leeds could change their name to Leeds Tyrannosaurus Rex. and then maybe you would be happy.

Edited by old papa, 05 August 2012 - 05:43 PM.


#25 Marauder

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:55 PM

So Marauder you think that the juniors would be better reverting back to the winter with kids shivering in games between December and February training in the wind, snow and hail. under poor floodlights. Or playing in the sunshine and training in the summer months in the daylight. just like their Super League hero's OH (hang on a minute) Maybe they want to be like their Grandads playing in 6 inches of mud in boots with leather studs maybe you could also contact steeden to see if they will make them a ball with a lace in it thats weighs about 2 stone,. and Leeds could change their name to Leeds Tyrannosaurus Rex. and then maybe you would be happy.

You had me then up to saying a ball weighing 2 stone.

The kids would be playing instead of getting games cancelled because the RFL elite teams had taken the best players..........I've really no problem with the summer, it's just not working because players and committee persons (Del Capo must be on holiday) have so many more commitment during the summer months, the old saying of you can't have a game without a referee could easily be chamged to you can't have a game without the players.
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#26 LordCharles

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:03 PM

So Marauder you think that the juniors would be better reverting back to the winter with kids shivering in games between December and February training in the wind, snow and hail. under poor floodlights. Or playing in the sunshine and training in the summer months in the daylight. just like their Super League hero's OH (hang on a minute) Maybe they want to be like their Grandads playing in 6 inches of mud in boots with leather studs maybe you could also contact steeden to see if they will make them a ball with a lace in it thats weighs about 2 stone,. and Leeds could change their name to Leeds Tyrannosaurus Rex. and then maybe you would be happy.


The Juniors competing in a March - November season, play in March, April, May, June and first 2 weeks of July before having a break until the first weekend in September, they then restart and play Sept, Oct and November.

They will no doubt be training in January and February in preperation for the March - November season.

Currently a large percentage of teams in the NW from U13's - U16's have struggled to fulfil a considerable amount of their scheduled fixtures for one reason or another.

Should they revert to a September - May season, then if you included a 4 or 5 week break from the 2nd week of December through to mid January the Juniors would be playing Sept, Oct, Nov, 1st week Dec, last 2 weeks Jan, Feb, March, April and May.

Which is not drastically different to the existing months they now play or train for a March - Nov season, except they break for June, July before coming back in at some point in August for a pre-season.

Unfortunately June, July & August are considerably wetter than they used to be and also you have many families attending weddings etc, going on holiday or continuing their summer pursuits or interests, which has again had an effect on teams fulfilling fixtures.

So I am not sure sure the picture for a return to a traditional season is as grave as you paint it.

#27 mr chairman

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:26 PM

We have got to keep kids away from training and playing between December and end of feb

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:32 PM

We have got to keep kids away from training and playing between December and end of feb


Totally agree with this, Any solution should be built around them times being a total non starter!
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:47 PM

We have got to keep kids away from training and playing between December and end of feb


I think the answer to that is play March - November :)

However, on the evidence of this season, for various reasons it is not as practical as it would first seem, in fact you could argue it is less practical than the Sept - May season.

Different people will see it different ways, just like the clubs have, some have found it beneficial and some have not.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 08:31 PM

You missed my point Charles , we could have a season that as a nov till feb break in which our elite players could go to development camp

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:15 PM

What we all need is stability in our game but IMO the RFL do not understand the meaning of the word and without me slagging them off just look at the evidence of recent years especially in the Youth and Junior Game Service areas , Regional Camps , Scholarships , Acadamies .All having a damaging effect on the community game .
I have said to all and sundrie that you can not run the elite program along side the community game it just does not work for obvious reasons.

This new summer season the biggest problem within our control was the playing calender and despite that the RFL along with the people who represent us did exactly what they was warned against . The damage of that as yet to be realised until such time we start back up in September .
Now it as been intimated that things will be better next year but no one is giving us any information because its confidential, what are we running here a secret bloody society were only the privilaged few know what the future holds for the community clubs.

The same people who made a mess this season are the custodians again so I for one hope they dont make the same mistakes again.

We as members of Barla have in my opinion been extreamly let down by our recent Board of Managements we have had no leadership and no direction ,we have been left alone to fight our battles so to speak .

The future is not good for the game and I think the damage is beyond repair in many cases, for me we need a change of policy at the top at Barla with a genuine desire to represent the whole of the association for the benefit of the game and not protect little empires.

Actions speak louder than words .

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:55 PM

Milford have to get on with it after the influence they had in the NCL changing seasons.

And before you get on your horse a certain Milford committee members name has cropped up at every NCL game I've been to this season.


What influence did a certain milford committee member have with the swicth to summer by the NCL, you keep mentioning he is talked about at every NCL game you go to please enlighten me how did he do it.

#33 Marauder

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 03:20 PM

You missed my point Charles , we could have a season that as a nov till feb break in which our elite players could go to development camp

At the most we will get 6 weeks of really bad cold weather in this country a year and as little as 2 weeks.
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#34 GeordieSaint

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:14 PM

At the most we will get 6 weeks of really bad cold weather in this country a year and as little as 2 weeks.


When did you turn into Michael Fish?! :)

You can't predict the English weather. The winter of 08/09 was fairly harsh as I spent a lot of it freezing my ###### off on various training areas in the North. The winter of 09/10 was even worse with snow/ice on the ground for months, which severely hampered my Bde PDT for HERRICK 12. Who could have predicted this summer's rain after droughts during the winter? The weather in the country is getting worse and harder to predict already due to gradual climate change; it's not good for rugby in either season.




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