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[andyram]

Thought I'll start this nice and early for our friends over the hill,we are just not good enough to even think we have a chance with this one,i will say Rams 16 - Bulldogs 46.Hope i'm wrong with this one.

[DEWSBURY TIL I DIE]

BATLEY WILL GET 50!!

[Blind side johnny]

We will support the team more in hope than anticipation yet also knowing that, in derbies at least, surprises can happen.


I suspect we won't get a BP however.

[Crown Flatter]

We will support the team more in hope than anticipation yet also knowing that, in derbies at least, surprises can happen.


I suspect we won't get a BP however.

After yesterday's abysmal showing BSJ, next week we'll be lucky to score at all - that would be the surprise!

[DEWSBURY TIL I DIE]

We surely cant get worse than yesterday but wel have no patch or jones(both couldnt even walk after the game),aswel as crossley so not looking good. No props,no clues... Not looking forward to it

Edited by DEWSBURY TIL I DIE, 06 August 2012 - 11:34 AM.

[EQUALIZER]

Batley to win by an innings and 37 runs.

[Eddie_Rombo]

We surely cant get worse than yesterday but wel have no patch or jones(both couldnt even walk after the game),aswel as crossley so not looking good. No props,no clues... Not looking forward to it

It's ok as we have a prop in Michael Wainwright!

[Eddie_Rombo]

Team for Batley game:

1. James Craven
2. Daley Williams
3. Derrell Olpherts
4. Elliot Cosgrove
5. Austin Buchanan
6. Ed Barber
7. Josh Tonks
8. Matt Nicholson
9. George Flanagan
10. Brad Singleton
11. Ryan Esders
12. Rob Spicer
13. Ayden Faal

Subs:

14. Michael Wainwright
15. Liam Hood
16. Joe Chandler
17. Danny Samuel

[coolie]

We surely cant get worse than yesterday but wel have no patch or jones(both couldnt even walk after the game),aswel as crossley so not looking good. No props,no clues... Not looking forward to it

shocker yesterday !!

BUT ..............................

history proves without patch we have a fantastic record...do the research & you will see..its true
season over offically and players looking to impress fresh fields,dogs are on a roll

but a derby is a derby

and the Rams are due one of their kickass performances

so a close game with the winners winning by 8 whoever the winners are

should be the dogs.....BUT YA NEVER KNOW

get the feeling Batley are more worried about this game than we are

[Piggy's mate]

get the feeling Batley are more worried about this game than we are

Yeah right Coolie. Listen to voice of reason - Sheep 4 Dogs 68

[coolie]

Yeah right Coolie. Listen to voice of reason - Sheep 4 Dogs 68

where we playing fantasy island....68 hahahahahahaha
time to change the barrel,cos this one is full of the brown stuff lol

if you win,you are expected too...sometimes a team with nothing but pride to play for is a dangerous thing

yeah batley are worried,not for a longtime have you gone into a derby game as walk away fav's such as this week

BUT !!!! and we all know batley like big BUTs

your on a hiding to nowt this week if you win big...you should have,if you sneek it,youll slate your team cos they should have won big

and heres the BUT....oh if you lose.............

TIN HAT TIME

going on sunday to see general jowitts last stand at the little tiprat,and we might just see s.hitting bullDOGS bite the dust

as The Ramones said......I believe in miracles !!!!!!!!!

and it will take a mighty one too

[DEWSBURY TIL I DIE]

Ed Barber to partner Scott Spavin at halfback. Sorry Nick but how can we play a 20year old 2nd rower at scrumhalf?? Am i missing something?

Anyway its how we set out to play what will determine the outcome but PLEASE! lets play some bloody rugby!!! Get the ball out Wazza,Try new things,weve nothing to lose but most of all play with pride because we realy dont want to lose this....

MY TEAM WOULD BE,

CRAVEN
BUCHANAN
FAAL
WILLIAMS
WAINWRIGHT
BARBER
SPAVIN
NICHOLSON
BLAKE
CHANDLER
SPICER
ESDERS
TONKS

FLANAGAN
SCOTT
SINGLETON
COSGROVE

[Eddie_Rombo]

Spaven is probably the worst scrum half I've seen in a Dewsbury shirt. He has no positional play, can't throw properly and his kicking game is non existent. What happened to Andrew Tillotson? Surely there must be a half decent scrum half out there!!

[Blind side johnny]

Spaven is probably the worst scrum half I've seen in a Dewsbury shirt. He has no positional play, can't throw properly and his kicking game is non existent. What happened to Andrew Tillotson? Surely there must be a half decent scrum half out there!!

Well you haven't seen many then Eddie.

Spaven is more of a pivot type of SH and doesn't take the ball to the line enough. He has a decent kicking game when he uses it (reasons why he doesn't are open to discussion) and is a consistent passer of the ball - similar to the sainted Barry eaton, in fact.

[RPH]

when people say or think Batley will run away with it.....they never seem to do.....
its the local derby......you should be fired up at least get a bonus point...
22-30..

[Nick07]

On paper and current form the game should be ours (Batley), but it's a derby so in many ways all that goes out of the window. Anything can happen. Personally don't think it will be the cakewalk some posters predict. I'll go for a tough, pretty even first 60 with the Dogs (hopefully) pulling away in the last quarter. Dewsbury 16 Batley 30.

Quite surprised at how you guys have struggled this year, even though statistically you've improved on last year so far. Both coaches admitted it was only a warm up up but the Rams looked excellent on Boxing day....big, fast and fluent. Looked very very promising, and beat us comfortably. Plus on paper you've got a number of players in Crossley, Faal, Craven, Buchanan, Spicer, Singleton and to a lesser extent Esders, Blake and Flanaghan who would get in most squads in this division. I cant imagine there's much difference between the 2 budgets of our respective clubs (Dewsbury bring in more from the Bar/Function Room and Car Boots with Batley perhaps getting a bigger amount of money from the Squadbuilders Association BISSA) so you do have to ask the question why Dewsbury havent achieved more. Is it to do coaching, tactics, motivation, etc.

One thing I have noticed in the handful of games i've seen this year (apart from Boxing Day obviously) is the glaring lack of a playmaker. Fev have Hardman and Kain, Fax Handforth, us Ben Black, Leigh Ridyard, Sheffield Brambani, and Keighley Sam Obst. It seems a big mistake on the club's part to rely on a youngster from Champ 1, a Duel Reg youngster, and Pat Walker, who for all the criticism he gets isnt a bad player, just not a playmaker or leader at this level. One decent half this year could have made all the difference.

[coolie]

On paper and current form the game should be ours (Batley), but it's a derby so in many ways all that goes out of the window. Anything can happen. Personally don't think it will be the cakewalk some posters predict. I'll go for a tough, pretty even first 60 with the Dogs (hopefully) pulling away in the last quarter. Dewsbury 16 Batley 30.

Quite surprised at how you guys have struggled this year, even though statistically you've improved on last year so far. Both coaches admitted it was only a warm up up but the Rams looked excellent on Boxing day....big, fast and fluent. Looked very very promising, and beat us comfortably. Plus on paper you've got a number of players in Crossley, Faal, Craven, Buchanan, Spicer, Singleton and to a lesser extent Esders, Blake and Flanaghan who would get in most squads in this division. I cant imagine there's much difference between the 2 budgets of our respective clubs (Dewsbury bring in more from the Bar/Function Room and Car Boots with Batley perhaps getting a bigger amount of money from the Squadbuilders Association BISSA) so you do have to ask the question why Dewsbury havent achieved more. Is it to do coaching, tactics, motivation, etc.

One thing I have noticed in the handful of games i've seen this year (apart from Boxing Day obviously) is the glaring lack of a playmaker. Fev have Hardman and Kain, Fax Handforth, us Ben Black, Leigh Ridyard, Sheffield Brambani, and Keighley Sam Obst. It seems a big mistake on the club's part to rely on a youngster from Champ 1, a Duel Reg youngster, and Pat Walker, who for all the criticism he gets isnt a bad player, just not a playmaker or leader at this level. One decent half this year could have made all the difference.

cant argue on anything in there nick

on paper we have far more money rolling in thru carboot & Bar/Function Room than batley,from what ive seen lately the carboot must bring in close to 70,000 per year...if not close too it,Bar/Function Room if not around the same if not more
batley dont have either but can afford black,moore,mennell & kear...what we have & what youve got the maths for me dont tally up

yes weve running costs & debts...staff wages to pay & power & heating during the day for meetings.

i personally cant understand how batley does it sometimes...this is not a knock in any way or form at batley

in reality batley have done a fantastic job with very little.

[Nick07]

Whoops meant to say Kain and Finn at Fev, not Hardman.

Your probably right about the budgets Coolie, although we've had substantial input from BISSA this year, which has been well documented, and really helped to boost the available coffers. As for Kear, although he will obviously be getting paid I dont actually think he'll be on big money. His main income comes from Sky and the various other things he's involved in. Sounds naive but I personally think his involvement is more to do with the enjoyment of coaching rather than for financial game. Alot of credit has to go to Kevin Nicholas too for the way he almost 'wooed' JK last season.

Perhaps like you say the running costs at the Rams are much greater than ours. Without wanting to rumour monger I also know that you guys offered pretty big money for a couple of players before the season, so it could also be that your paying out more than us in wages, especially to players like Crossley and Faal, etc who must have been sought after.

Maybe its down to coaching more than anything though, and we've been damn lucky to get someone of JK's calibre. Something that's been evidenced in the way that he's made previously not rated players, i.e Keegan Hirst into pretty fine ones. There's also they way he managed to procure the signing of Alex Walmsley too, who must now be the best forward outside SL. Still though there isn't that much difference on paper between the two sides, beside in the halves.

Without wanting to jump on a bandwagon, from a neutrals perspective it does seem like WJ has taken the club as far as he can, and in fairness he had a very good couple of seasons for you. In many ways its similar to us under Gary Thornton, who stayed a year or 2 too long and in many ways tarnished the creditable things he achieved in his early seasons as coach.

[Blind side johnny]

Whoops meant to say Kain and Finn at Fev, not Hardman.

Your probably right about the budgets Coolie, although we've had substantial input from BISSA this year, which has been well documented, and really helped to boost the available coffers. As for Kear, although he will obviously be getting paid I dont actually think he'll be on big money. His main income comes from Sky and the various other things he's involved in. Sounds naive but I personally think his involvement is more to do with the enjoyment of coaching rather than for financial game. Alot of credit has to go to Kevin Nicholas too for the way he almost 'wooed' JK last season.

Perhaps like you say the running costs at the Rams are much greater than ours. Without wanting to rumour monger I also know that you guys offered pretty big money for a couple of players before the season, so it could also be that your paying out more than us in wages, especially to players like Crossley and Faal, etc who must have been sought after.

Maybe its down to coaching more than anything though, and we've been damn lucky to get someone of JK's calibre. Something that's been evidenced in the way that he's made previously not rated players, i.e Keegan Hirst into pretty fine ones. There's also they way he managed to procure the signing of Alex Walmsley too, who must now be the best forward outside SL. Still though there isn't that much difference on paper between the two sides, beside in the halves.

Without wanting to jump on a bandwagon, from a neutrals perspective it does seem like WJ has taken the club as far as he can, and in fairness he had a very good couple of seasons for you. In many ways its similar to us under Gary Thornton, who stayed a year or 2 too long and in many ways tarnished the creditable things he achieved in his early seasons as coach.

Gary Thornton was rubbish. I know that for a fact because Harold says so!

[Piggy's mate]

A big win for the Dogs could force WJ to walk?


Who you gonna cheer for now Coolie et al