45 replies to this topic

[bionic barrel]

for supporting the edl

freedom of speech and expression is now dead in britain, the council can now sack you for not been a left winger and having views of a different spectrum. frightening and dark days ahead for britain indeed.

[Johnoco]

It depends. If he just stated that he supported the edl that's one thing. If he was caught fighting on a demo or something, they may have grounds to sack him with them being a council and all that.

[l'angelo mysterioso]

for supporting the edl

freedom of speech and expression is now dead in britain, the council can now sack you for not been a left winger and having views of a different spectrum. frightening and dark days ahead for britain indeed.

local authorities have certain standards involvin equality: a good thing considering the diversity of people that local authorities have to deal with. If a person's beliefs are at odds with that: they are in the wrong job

[MikeW]

local authorities have certain standards involvin equality: a good thing considering the diversity of people that local authorities have to deal with. If a person's beliefs are at odds with that: they are in the wrong job

Has he allowed his opinions to interfere with his work? A quick google shows this isn't just some bloke who works on the bins and subscribes to their news letter but there are plenty of people out there with pretty horrendous views on the place of women who have no fear for their livelyhood, leading members of the clergy of pretty much all faiths for one.

[Severus]

Could this come under bringing your employer into disrepute? Political views are one thing, being openly racist is another. If this person was in a position to discriminate on the grounds of ethnicity then their position would surely be untenable. Saying that, I'm still not convinced it was right.

[Johnoco]

The problem is, to me at least, who defines where we draw the line?

Clearly you don't want white power extremists working for the council but whilst its easy to see that as a legitimate reason for sacking somebody, what happens when its your views being defined as unacceptable and you get the boot. Whilst others who hold views unacceptable to you, remain in a job.

Its definitely not as clear cut as it may seem.

[MikeW]

Could this come under bringing your employer into disrepute? Political views are one thing, being openly racist is another. If this person was in a position to discriminate on the grounds of ethnicity then their position would surely be untenable. Saying that, I'm still not convinced it was right.

Totally agree, but from a legal perspective does being a member of the EDL automatically make you a racist? Having said that this guy is apparently a major blogger for far right opinion so there must be a piece somewhere on the web which could trip him up in a tribunal.

Edited by MikeW, 08 August 2012 - 10:35 PM.

[Northern Sol]

Could this come under bringing your employer into disrepute? Political views are one thing, being openly racist is another. If this person was in a position to discriminate on the grounds of ethnicity then their position would surely be untenable. Saying that, I'm still not convinced it was right.

Are all EDL members openl racist?

[Northern Sol]

Totally agree, but from a legal perspective does being a member of the EDL automatically make you a racist? Having said that this guy is apparently a major blogger for far right opinion so there must be a piece somewhere on the web which could trip him up in a tribunal.

The blogs could potentially change things as far as I am concerned. EDL members should not be sacked just for being EDL members.

[Wolford6]

Are all EDL members openl racist?

There were some Sikh EDL members on a TV documentary last year.

[HaroldShand]

If he was involved in decison-making that incorporated people of an ethnic background (particularly Muslims, as the EDL seem to have a notable bugbear with Islam), then there's a massive conflict of interest, so to speak.

[Johnoco]

I saw some edl members in Bradford on Saturday afternoon going to and returning from the demo in Keighley.

A bunch of moronic thugs.

[HaroldShand]

I saw some edl members in Bradford on Saturday afternoon going to and returning from the demo in Keighley.

A bunch of moronic thugs.

I agree. Just another vehicle for racist neanderthals who used to root for the BNP. If anyone believes otherwise, then I suggest they check out the posts and comments on the EDL's various regional Facebook pages. Why they seem to ignore the simple notion that there are good and bad people in all communities, and that its stupidly unreasonable to single out an entire religious group as being the collective evil-doers in our society is beyond me. Oh, on second thoughts, I do know.......

[bowes]

If he was involved in decison-making that incorporated people of an ethnic background (particularly Muslims, as the EDL seem to have a notable bugbear with Islam), then there's a massive conflict of interest, so to speak.

What about a strict Christian or Muslim who had to make decisions involving homosexuals? Why a difference?

[gingerjon]

What about a strict Christian or Muslim who had to make decisions involving homosexuals? Why a difference?

There have been such dismissals. Relationship Counsellor in Bristol and registrar in Islington come to mind.

[bowes]

There have been such dismissals. Relationship Counsellor in Bristol and registrar in Islington come to mind.

Are they only of Christians?

[gingerjon]

Are they only of Christians?

Those two are.

Obviously yer moslems can do what they like innit.

[bowes]

Those two are.

Obviously yer moslems can do what they like innit.

In the warped minds of some council managers that approach is entirely possible.

Edited by bowes, 09 August 2012 - 07:37 AM.

[The Walrus]

EDL is a legal organisation and people are entitled to their views, his views do not affect his work and it would appear he has not committed a crime. People do far far worse in their personal life.

[JohnM]

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