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#1 marklaspalmas

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 10:03 AM

I have to admit I do enjoy a good stat or two in my Rugby League.

There's a couple of things I don't quite understand in the figures produced in the centre pages of League Express each weekend.

Take this week's edition Wigan v Hull.

There were 120+107 ptbs =227.

Yet there were 199+210 carries = 409. Really? But there were only 37 offloads. So does standing and passing count as a carry? But not for the acting half-back?

Also there were 257+288 tackles=545 as well as another 65 missed tackles making almost 3 every single tackle when I'd've thought nearer 2 would be the average.

Anoraky I know. Can anyone offer any insight? Ta.

#2 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 10:59 AM

all I can say is that I hope you emerge, pale, drawn and blinking into the daylight tomorrow. My turn for the butties.
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#3 EdinburghExile

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 12:10 PM

All seems reasonable.

A carry would count as a ball-handling episode, not sure if that would count if someone passed the ball immediately (say from AHB), or before a kick, but 1.8 carries per tackle, or maybe 8-10 carries per set (not sure the average number of tackles in a set, I'd guess about 4.5) seems fair with three hit-ups, a couple of spreads of about three passes down the line, then a run and kick.

As for the 545 tackles, I'd assume this means completed tackles, so 2.4 men per tackle - most hit-ups will have three players tackling, wider action will have 1 or 2 tacklers. Doesn't make sense to include missed tackles in this average.

#4 marklaspalmas

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 01:44 PM

All seems reasonable.

A carry would count as a ball-handling episode, not sure if that would count if someone passed the ball immediately (say from AHB), or before a kick, but 1.8 carries per tackle, or maybe 8-10 carries per set (not sure the average number of tackles in a set, I'd guess about 4.5) seems fair with three hit-ups, a couple of spreads of about three passes down the line, then a run and kick.

As for the 545 tackles, I'd assume this means completed tackles, so 2.4 men per tackle - most hit-ups will have three players tackling, wider action will have 1 or 2 tacklers. Doesn't make sense to include missed tackles in this average.


Put that way, it does seem reasonable. Ta. I'd assumed carry meant hit up which seemed disproportional.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 01:46 PM

all I can say is that I hope you emerge, pale, drawn and blinking into the daylight tomorrow. My turn for the butties.


This is unlikely to be the last time Im (not so) subtly advised to get out more.

#6 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 07:27 PM

This is unlikely to be the last time Im (not so) subtly advised to get out more.

anyway it was a cheap do
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