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[getdownmonkeyman]

PS

Did anybody hear Brett Finch on Radio Manchester yesterday evening. He seemed to think that he may make the squad, despite not being announced in the 19-man squad? If he is absent, who will be at halfback?

[Arch Stanton]

House of Pain

Wire 44 Wigan 16

[Exiled Wiganer]

House of Pain

Wire 44 Wigan 16

Ha ha!
That's the spirit.

[Old Frightful]

House of Pain

Wire 44 Wigan 16

If that happens will you jump around?

[brianthewire]

Wire win by 10 but might be closer hopefully a good game and I will be there

[Just Browny]

Wigan by 14.

I also predict a flood of childish posts on here.

[Exiled Wiganer]

Wigan by 14.

I also predict a flood of childish posts on here.

That's a self fulfilling prophecy if ever I read one.

[barrowraiderskid]

Wigan by between 2 and 6. Thats also a prediction of the amount of posts there will be after the game which make reference to how each team played rather than blaming it on the ref or a decision ect.

[hindle xiii]

If that happens will you jump around?

You should've quit...

... but you were never ahead!

[hindle xiii]

Wigan by 14.

I also predict a flood of childish posts on here.

He's already reffed. Teehee.

[1976PMJwires]

Warrington by 50.

(kevin keegan mode) I would love it!!!! (kevin keegan mode)

Edited by 1976PMJwires, 11 August 2012 - 06:42 AM.

[Just Browny]

That's a self fulfilling prophecy if ever I read one.

Yep, my unspoken prediction was that you'd be the source of most of them.

[giwildgo]

Once in 8? Goodness, that does not bode well. I hope we get a bit closer than 16 points down. Over to Messrs Lima, Mossop and Hock to try and hold the mighty Wire forwards.

Somebody forgot to tell some Warrington fans that previous matches are irrelevant to what happens during the forthcoming 80 minutes. No wonder they had such a defeatist attitude to matches against Saints for so long.

Today's result depends on how each team turns up on the day. Would feel more confident if Wigan were the team at full strength, but a win still isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

[Exiled Wiganer]

Yep, my unspoken prediction was that you'd be the source of most of them.

No, most of the childish one will be from you. And you smell of cheese.

[MrFussy]

Very much looking forward to this one.

Warrington's defensive speed and aggression was superb on Monday but they'll need to show more conviction in attack. I doubt that will be a problem though as without the easy option of targeting Meli they'll focus on mixing it up more. Wigan seem to cope well with injury and the extra two days rest has to be an advantage.

Naturally I hope Warrington take Wigan to the cleaners. I'm not sure that will happen, but I'm fairly optimistic that they'll get the win.

[MrFussy]

Somebody forgot to tell some Warrington fans that previous matches are irrelevant to what happens during the forthcoming 80 minutes. No wonder they had such a defeatist attitude to matches against Saints for so long.

Today's result depends on how each team turns up on the day. Would feel more confident if Wigan were the team at full strength, but a win still isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

Track records and bogeys are very powerful things. I believe that's one of the reasons that we've been so unsuccessful in internationals for so long. It obviously does depend on how each team performs on the day, but that's something that can easily be influenced by what's gone before.

[giwildgo]

Track records and bogeys are very powerful things. I believe that's one of the reasons that we've been so unsuccessful in internationals for so long. It obviously does depend on how each team performs on the day, but that's something that can easily be influenced by what's gone before.

Belief in bogeys and track records is a sign of mental weakness. Talent, tactics, performance on the day or plain old luck should influence the outcome of a match, not a lack of self belief based upon historical precedent. Even proven winners had to prevail a first time.

[MrFussy]

Belief in bogeys and track records is a sign of mental weakness. Talent, tactics, performance on the day or plain old luck should influence the outcome of a match, not a lack of self belief based upon historical precedent. Even proven winners had to prevail a first time.

Maybe so but mental strength/weakness is a major factor and bogeys are a prominent part of sport and do influence results.

Edited by MrFussy, 11 August 2012 - 10:49 AM.

[giwildgo]

Maybe so but mental strength/weakness is a major factor and bogeys are a prominent part of sport and do influence results.

If Wigan lose today, then it won't be due to a lack of mental toughness that's for sure. I'd suggest your belief in bogeys and the associated influence is understandable given Saints recent GF record with Leeds, but I see it as more of an excuse for repeatedly not being good enough on the day. Warrington could beat Wigan another 5 times in a row and I still wouldn't believe in a 'bogey' being a major factor rather that they were the better side on each of those meetings.

Edited by giwildgo, 11 August 2012 - 11:15 AM.

[MrFussy]

If Wigan lose today, then it won't be due to a lack of mental toughness that's for sure. I'd suggest your belief in bogeys and the associated influence is understandable given Saints recent GF record with Leeds, but I see it as more of an excuse for repeatedly not being good enough on the day. Warrington could beat Wigan another 5 times in a row and I still wouldn't believe in a 'bogey' being a major factor rather that they were the better side on each of those meetings.

A litte bit patronising but never mind.

That's a weak example of a bogey because in a Grand Final you're always up against top competition. I suspect Saints do have an Old Trafford mental block of sorts though, much like Leeds are now able to draw on big game experience to get them through. Warrington's record against St Helens prior to 2011 is a better example, as is England/Britain's record against Australia. Warrington were easily the better side in several of those meetings and yet fell apart when the job looked to be done. Mental intensity always plays a role. I can think of plenty of other examples ranging across several sports.

I'm not sure why you claim it's an excuse for not performing? It's nothing of the sort, it's a reason maybe but never an excuse. I also didn't say that if Wigan lose today it will be as a result of mental weakness, I simply think your dismissal of past results is risky business.

Anyhow I'll agree to disagree.

Edited by MrFussy, 11 August 2012 - 11:36 AM.