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[fredm]

The stat's suggest pitch size/slope/altitude/orientation to the wind etc have no significant bearing on the overall points scored in any game and therefore the style of play.

These are the last 5 years average points scored;

Batley 51 F26 A25
Dewsbury 51 F25 A26
Leigh 51 F29 A22
Sheffield Eagles 53 F28 A25

Sorry, but what are these averages for? Each match played at their home grounds? Matches played against each other?

[Ackroman]

Sorry, but what are these averages for? Each match played at their home grounds? Matches played against each other?

Every game regardless of opposition or location.

It suggests RL is a 50 point game, no matter where it is played or by whom.

[distantdog]

Every game regardless of opposition or location.

It suggests RL is a 50 point game, no matter where it is played or by whom.

Which sort of negates the arguments about Dewsbury's ground, and of course your comment about the slope!

[DEWSBURY TIL I DIE]

It hasnt really helped us greatly to be honest as our home and away record is exactly the same. In essence the slope only really makes a big difference in poor weather conditions. On a warm, dry day, although a slight advantage goes to the team playing downhill in terms of kicking, in many ways it's pretty much nulified.

I think the point the poster was trying to make was that Ram stadium isn't particularly conducive to free flowing rugby, which is evidenced by the large number of relatively low scoring games you've had this season, even though like you say it isn't perhaps as narrow as people thought. It just seems as if players (both sides) are very much bunched and space is at a premium. As said though teams have to adapt. In many ways the Rams should try use it to their advantage and build their style of play in accordance with the pitch, although the only downside is then having to try modify this for away games at much wider grounds.

Was nice to see some grass on it for once on Sunday though .

We have so much grass, because the RFL dont give a monkeys about the likes of us in the Championship, weve had only 2 home games inabout 9 or 10 week.... So the pitch aint been used too much.

[Blind side johnny]

go on then I will stick my head in the Lions mouth but be warned harold's on my side

Smaller pitch equals less space, fewer gaps and suits a slower team. I await my critics

Yes PM I do understand that. What i meant was what is the actual difference in the sizes - i.e. how long/wide is each pitch?

[Blind side johnny]

According to a posting someone put a while ago the following are the dimensions:

Dewsbury 92m x 62m

Batley 98m x 65m

Also stated were Hunslet 94m x 64m

Fev 88m x 70m

York 90m x 60m

and Toulouse was the largest at 100m x 66m.

Sorry, didn't see this before my earlier posting.

Thanks fredm. I often wonder how much difference these sizes make - if you've got 12 players strung across, even sliding, does 3m give that much extra space? I don't know the answer as I've never played.

On another note does anyone remember how players always used to go on about the acres of space that wembley offered, yet in reality it was smaller than many other RL pitches? It's all in the mind!!

[greavesy]

Sorry, didn't see this before my earlier posting.

Thanks fredm. I often wonder how much difference these sizes make - if you've got 12 players strung across, even sliding, does 3m give that much extra space? I don't know the answer as I've never played.

On another note does anyone remember how players always used to go on about the acres of space that wembley offered, yet in reality it was smaller than many other RL pitches? It's all in the mind!!

Agreed BSJ if the ball player puts the man in the gap the line break happens a lot of it is in the mind. we played Hunslet and really struggled last year we were very lucky to win one of them and Harrison was concerned about the size of the pitch this season John Kear never mentioned it and we scored 50+

[guest from down under]

just for an excercise i measured both pitches from the same ariel photo taken at a same point in time and my calculations were that mount pleasant is 12% bigger than dewsbury .

[Ackroman]

Which sort of negates the arguments about Dewsbury's ground, and of course your comment about the slope!

Agreed

12% seems a lot though but this may include the in-goal area too.

[grumpyoldram]

go on then I will stick my head in the Lions mouth but be warned harold's on my side

Smaller pitch equals less space, fewer gaps and suits a slower team. I await my critics

Surely though, those players with superior speed and ability will be able to find those gaps more easily than those of a more pedestrian nature , and also will find it easier to cover those gaps when the opposition are in possession - so the final result should be the same. Course there have been times this year when we've left gaps that Stephen Hawkin could go through.

[Piggy's mate]

Surely though, those players with superior speed and ability will be able to find those gaps more easily than those of a more pedestrian nature , and also will find it easier to cover those gaps when the opposition are in possession - so the final result should be the same. Course there have been times this year when we've left gaps that Stephen Hawkin could go through.

True GOR but you did'nt cut the grass and the resultant drag factor multiplied by the gap divided by the square of the accelertion means we only just won (added to the fact Brown was off-side )

Edited by Piggy's mate, 15 August 2012 - 06:14 PM.

[grumpyoldram]

True GOR but you did'nt cut the grass and the resultant drag factor multiplied by the gap divided by the square of the accelertion means we only just won (added to the fact Brown was off-side )