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[The Parksider]

I honestly think that the Hunslet club will still be run by HIST and not Leeds.For the benefit of Hunslet.

With respect to HIST I think that they will indeed make the final decisions on all issues to the benefitof Hunslet in termsof keeping them alive no matter what.

But I can't see them arguing with anything Mr. Hethrington "suggests".

And again this is my point..........

[Northern Sol]

The Skolars have a similar arrangement with the Broncos I believe.

The Skolars don't live in the shadows of the Broncos and are a club on the up.

[Ponterover]

I feel for Hunslet's fans at the moment, this is dressed up like a partnership, but I think that it is the thin end of the wedge as far as Hunslet's time as a fully independent professional club is concerned.

It may or may not be a good thing for all concerned, time will tell, but I know how I'd feel if Wakefield, or god forbid Castleford were making such an announcement about their new partnership with my club.

[Ponterover]

With respect to HIST I think that they will indeed make the final decisions on all issues to the benefitof Hunslet in termsof keeping them alive no matter what.

But I can't see them arguing with anything Mr. Hethrington "suggests".

And again this is my point..........

That would be my fear, Leeds are bound to call the shots, having the massive financial muscle that they have.

[The Parksider]

That would be my fear, Leeds are bound to call the shots, having the massive financial muscle that they have.

As Terry indicated Hunslet looked to Leeds for help.

In getting that help they may well get their survival.

But that help certainly compromises their idependance.

[knottla]

I stand corrected if I'm wrong but didn't Leeds link up with Bramley before their demise.

[Marauder]

Dual Reg states we can only have 5 players playing at any one time, so that would be 5 players in a squad of 18 (including 18th Man) and the most ironic thing is that the 5 lads will probably be Hunslet lads, contracted to Leeds on dual reg at Hunslet, before the super league era these kids would have signed straight for Hunslet and then worked up to Super League ie Jimmy Lowes, Sonny Nickel etc etc, so Is Super League and the demise of the leagues below partly to blame for this situation?

How many in the Hunslet 2nd team?

[The Parksider]

I stand corrected if I'm wrong but didn't Leeds link up with Bramley before their demise.

Yes they did, They allowed the club to operate out of Headingley and they played barrie Mcdermott a few times to help him get match fit after injury.

Of course it shows Mr.Hetherington to the forefront of such schemes.

I'd welcome Mr. Cliff "Bramley" Spracklens comments!

[Derwent]

How many of these "partnerships" are Leeds going to have ? They already have one in place with Whitehaven (since 2009), though I'm struggling to think of a single Leeds player to have played for Haven during that time.

[The Parksider]

How many of these "partnerships" are Leeds going to have ? They already have one in place with Whitehaven (since 2009), though I'm struggling to think of a single Leeds player to have played for Haven during that time.

They had York, and they have Gloucester and they had a link up with the North Queensland Cowboys was it???

Add Whitehaven, Bramley and Hunslet and there we go.

A trawl through the Hunslet fans message board sees a split between fans who view the move as the possible end of the club as an independant club, and the pragmatic view that at least it will save the club.

Given Uncle Gary has had many atempts at this that have largely fizzled out I can only surmise his willingness to seek yet another may provide him with what he wants this time.

That being primarily Championship game time for his rising stars at a time when less games in the reserve leagues are imminent, whatever additional wider motives he may or may not have (stand alone or along with other SL compadres) I am unsure of.

[fieldofclothofgold]

Hunslet lost its support after the demolition of much of the area etc,but Bramley suffered too in the early 70s when he practically the whole of Bramley town street flattened and built into the eyesore it is today.All the green areas were built over,and there was a mass migration into the area by people who had no affinity with Bramley..So the village of Bramley lost its identity.From 1975-6 the club was in its death throes

[james cunny]

A very brave move by the Hunslet board to do this and also by Leeds too in helping Hunslet out all that matters to me is that Hunslet survive and it just makes sense to get a little help from our powerhouse neighbours hopefully this moves gives us chance to compete in Championship I think people need to give it a chance and see how it works

[james cunny]

With respect to HIST I think that they will indeed make the final decisions on all issues to the benefitof Hunslet in termsof keeping them alive no matter what.

But I can't see them arguing with anything Mr. Hethrington "suggests".

And again this is my point..........

To be honest knowing the guys who are on the board of HIST there is no way they would do this just thinking short-term there has to be quite a few benefits for Hunslet too without a backer we would be nailed on for relegation next season

[audois]

I spoke to Russell Aitken the Carcasonne stand off the other day about dual registration. He played at Melbourne and Cronulla in the NRL but had dropped down to Newtown Jets before coming to France. At the Jets Jason Baitieri was captain but also was still a Roosters player along side Lopini Paea. Paea also appeared for Newtown when not needed by the NRL Roosters with the likes of Willie Mason and Iosia Soliola. I notice this year Daniel Mortimer is there from the Roosters.On their web site says that the half back debut with NRL team R1 and with Jets in R5.

Aitken said there's not issues between players moving from one club to the other. Blokes dont feel having their noses pushed out when replaced. At Newtown 45 players are listed. I dont think the Jets have other sides so if your not included may be you drop down to another local competition. He said the fans enjoyed seeing the star players running out in the clubs colours even if for a couple of weeks. Having better players in the competition lifts playing levels overall.

I get the impression there's no limit on numbers also - although you have to have played a number of games to qualify for the play offs. Newton one of the great founder members (1908) have now resigned to their new status after being a top Winfield Cup side. But those days are now gone but still a place for them to contribute.

[The Parksider]

Hunslet lost its support after the demolition of much of the area etc,but Bramley suffered too in the early 70s when he practically the whole of Bramley town street flattened and built into the eyesore it is today.All the green areas were built over,and there was a mass migration into the area by people who had no affinity with Bramley..So the village of Bramley lost its identity.From 1975-6 the club was in its death throes

Well put in a very concise nutshell.

I would be hard pressed to find more than a handfull of the houses that accomodates 70,000 Hunslet people in their heyday.
There are 17,000 new people in the area mainly in new later hosing and the surrounding suburbs identify more with Leeds than Hunslet.

The club has no prospect ever of rebuilding much of a crowd as long as Leeds remain SL top dogs and genrations pass.

We are not like barrow - largely out of the way of superleague dominance with a 72,000 population who identify with the town.

But it is of course a free world and the much admired enthusiasts who look to preserve the heritage and traitions of such clubs are free to do so and certainly have my blessing.

Would I rather the club be preserved in an independant form like Bramley have been playing at a level where their independance can be preserved, or would I rather the club survive as a "dependant" of leeds rhinos in a higher level of rugby.

That's not for me to say, it's for those who take on the responsibility to decide what they want to do and good luck to them.

[Blackpool Hawk]

HIST have to do whats in the best interests of the club, and in the current situation the club finds its self in, it would be foolish for the HIST board to not take up this opportunity to link up with Leeds Rhinos.

All this partnership entails is a dual reg agreement where by Leeds will ONLY send there players to Hunslet and that's it. Its no different to York having 4 dual reg players this season from Cas and Hull.

[Marauder]

To be honest knowing the guys who are on the board of HIST there is no way they would do this just thinking short-term there has to be quite a few benefits for Hunslet too without a backer we would be nailed on for relegation next season

Long term will be the same as all the other championship and championship1 clubs, the name will stay but the guys on the park will belong to someone else.

This scheme is just somewhere for super league clubs to farm their overspill players out to either to gain full fitness or gain experience all on the cheap to super league.

I suppose if this runs for a couple of seasons like most RFL hairbrained ideas the championship and championship1 clubs will be left with little or no player assets then the walls of jericho will come tumbling down.

[Blackpool Hawk]

I cant not reiterate enough, the Hunslet club will be owned and run by the Hunslet Independent Supporters Trust not Leeds Rhinos

[The Parksider]

To be honest knowing the guys who are on the board of HIST there is no way they would do this just thinking short-term there has to be quite a few benefits for Hunslet too without a backer we would be nailed on for relegation next season

I appreciate that James, they will do what a IST has to do to achieve their goal and that is seemingly preservation at the highest level they can.

Having lost their tie up with Leeds and then their place in the pro-ranks Bramley made a great fist of things outside of the pro ranks. However I'm not sure how they are going now though (anyone?)

So Hunslet giving up on their league status is certainly not an option now. They have to take the offer.

Doesn't stop me thinking the club won't be the same ever again, and one one level at least (independant professional RL club) it is probably the end....

[terrywebbisgod]

HIST have to do whats in the best interests of the club, and in the current situation the club finds its self in, it would be foolish for the HIST board to not take up this opportunity to link up with Leeds Rhinos.

All this partnership entails is a dual reg agreement where by Leeds will ONLY send there players to Hunslet and that's it. Its no different to York having 4 dual reg players this season from Cas and Hull.

Not according to all the nay sayers and doom merchants.