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[Marauder]

The current BARLA board only care about tours and the county championships etc there "elite" which is why the games in a mess

Apart from controlling tours and the county championship didn't BARLA allow the regional leagues to govern themselves and their only purpose or needed involvement was the overseeing of any disputes.

A simple system that allowed each region to work out what was the best for their own competitions within the rules of the association, rules that have developed over the years from experience and feed back from all the regions.

Are BARLA guilty of sitting back and allowing to much power of organisation below them (It's the people in this area who seem to be the one's running head on into the RFL web of change).

Maybe another area that needs looking into by BARLA, Is having one person not sitting in more than one position within the association (Because they are volunteers one poor officer in a few positions can do a lot of damage)

[TaxiEgg]

Apart from this recent attempt to facilitate a move back to a traditional season , the answer is yes the Barla Board have just sat back and promoted what they feel comfortable with the "Tours " National and County Cups which haver ever decreasing entries and a watered down Three counties comp.

The biggest critiscm levelled at them is that they have little or no empathy with the current state of the game , like what was posted on the locked Barla thread they have offered next to nothing for the Youth and Junior game in the NW for over 4 years under the Same Chair and Youth and Junior chair .

They have been afforded the opportunity on several occassions to Sell themselves and every time fail miserably.

A prime examlpe of where we are, at a meeting held at Blackbrook to apparrently clear the air and take the Association forward can anybody please given an example of anything postive from the Board from that meeting.

It could be time for a new modern association to be formed if the excisting "old school" continie to fail to deliver.

The answer is not just to lie down and let the governing body railroad us down a damaging Cul de sac.

We need delegates who can sit round a table with the RFL and professionaly promote and protect the amateur game.

Edited by TaxiEgg, 25 August 2012 - 05:01 PM.

[gillmeister]

Apart from this recent attempt to facilitate a move back to a traditional season , the answer is yes the Barla Board have just sat back and promoted what they feel comfortable with the "Tours " National and County Cups which haver ever decreasing entries and a watered down Three counties comp.

The biggest critiscm levelled at them is that they have little or no empathy with the current state of the game , like what was posted on the locked Barla thread they have offered next to nothing for the Youth and Junior game in the NW for over 4 years under the Same Chair and Youth and Junior chair .

They have been afforded the opportunity on several occassions to Sell themselves and every time fail miserably.

A prime examlpe of where we are at a meeting was held at Blackbrook to apparrently clear the air and take the Association forward can anybody please given an example of anything postive from the Board from that meeting.

It could be time for a new modern association to be formed if the excisting "old school" continie to fail to deliver.

The answer is not just to lie down and let the governing body railroad us down a damaging Cul de sac.

We need delegates who can sit round a table with the RFL and professionaly promote and protect the amateur game.

That is a superb post that sums the whole situation up Taxi Egg. I believe there has been a change in the BARLA community board rep and if its true then it really does prove how out of touch they are

[GeordieSaint]

That is a superb post that sums the whole situation up Taxi Egg. I believe there has been a change in the BARLA community board rep and if its true then it really does prove how out of touch they are

Shouldn't they also be representing the Midlands, South, Northeast areas as well?

[TaxiEgg]

Yes they should but to be honest in all my time in the game i have never been aware of any development or expansion plan apart the NCL and NYL in which they no longer control .

For many years many of us have referrerred to them as YARLA.

[GeordieSaint]

Yes they should but to be honest in all my time in the game i have never been aware of any development or expansion plan apart the NCL and NYL in which they no longer control .

For many years many of us have referrerred to them as YARLA.

No development or expansion plan within BARLA (sorry YARLA!) or from the RFL as well?

[bowes]

Yes they should but to be honest in all my time in the game i have never been aware of any development or expansion plan apart the NCL and NYL in which they no longer control .

For many years many of us have referrerred to them as YARLA.

In the 80s they seem to have built from hubs in the heartlands and London outwards (London having had a league mainly for expatriate,Australians since 1965. They mainly based this on universities, military and miners with Gloucestershire and Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire being the most successful. They split off leagues when enough teams were there. After 1989 they based expansion around RU players playing on a Sunday and had some success in the midlands and the Eastern region. It was this that triggered the RFL to go for a RU off season Southern Conference League which became the RLC.

Though BARLA did in the 90s reverse direction and encourage teams from the North East and East Midlands League to join the Yorkshire League (originally they were spin offs of the York and District Sunday League and West Yorkshire Sunday League respectively)

Edited by bowes, 26 August 2012 - 12:04 PM.

[TaxiEgg]

http://www.bbc.co.uk...league/19379099


The game is safe .

[Marauder]

http://www.bbc.co.uk...league/19379099


The game is safe .

Why did Rimmer put this (Whilst it is clearly a very disappointing development, our decision provides verification that the rigorous checks we have in place are working and that there is a quality threshold being applied) spin on the reason why Northampton have plulled the plug, It's seems clear that the backer has done his sums and didn't want to pour money into the venture that could be used for the football team.

[bowes]

Why did Rimmer put this (Whilst it is clearly a very disappointing development, our decision provides verification that the rigorous checks we have in place are working and that there is a quality threshold being applied) spin on the reason why Northampton have plulled the plug, It's seems clear that the backer has done his sums and didn't want to pour money into the venture that could be used for the football team.

It's been clear to everyone for months that Demons knew nothing whatsoever about rugby league, their knowledge was on a par with that of the average 80 year old woman from Basingstoke. Rimmer refused to do a thing about it until the club themselves withdrew after meeting a rugby league coach for the first time ever.

Edited by bowes, 26 August 2012 - 01:05 PM.

[Marauder]

It's been clear to everyone for months that Demons knew nothing whatsoever about rugby league, their knowledge was on a par with that of the average 80 year old woman from Basingstoke. Rimmer refused to do a thing about it until the club themselves withdrew after meeting a rugby league coach for the first time ever.

I reckon the top and bottom of it all is the RFL at the moment just can not afford to finance their full plan for their elite pyramid system, could the massive dash to summer by the NCL & NWC have caught them by surprise and resulted in the development officers being scrapped and has buying Odsal caused the lack of funding towards the 4 new proposed championship 1 sides.

[bowes]

I reckon the top and bottom of it all is the RFL at the moment just can not afford to finance their full plan for their elite pyramid system, could the massive dash to summer by the NCL & NWC have caught them by surprise and resulted in the development officers being scrapped and has buying Odsal caused the lack of funding towards the 4 new proposed championship 1 sides.

I certainly don't think they expected the NWCL to all but entirely go summer even though they publicly claimed everyone was going summer. I think the 4 new Championship 1 clubs was more of a case of wanting a 14 team Championship and having no idea what to do with the leftovers. They'd originally hoped to merge the remnant clubs with the NCL but that was never going to happen in a sport as fractured as ours.

[tim2]

I reckon the top and bottom of it all is the RFL at the moment just can not afford to finance their full plan for their elite pyramid system, could the massive dash to summer by the NCL & NWC have caught them by surprise and resulted in the development officers being scrapped and has buying Odsal caused the lack of funding towards the 4 new proposed championship 1 sides.

The funding cycle is coming to an end and the signals are not good regarding getting anything like the level of funding we got last time. making staff redundant, or giving notice of possible redundnacy, was inevitable.

[Marauder]

The funding cycle is coming to an end and the signals are not good regarding getting anything like the level of funding we got last time. making staff redundant, or giving notice of possible redundnacy, was inevitable.

I understand all that Tim and before any funding came on stream the RFL didn't want anything to do with the amateur game and the only reason they do at the moment is to try and sustain the funding, if it all stopped tomorrow the RFL would drop you all like a top of bricks.

[Marauder]

I certainly don't think they expected the NWCL to all but entirely go summer even though they publicly claimed everyone was going summer. I think the 4 new Championship 1 clubs was more of a case of wanting a 14 team Championship and having no idea what to do with the leftovers. They'd originally hoped to merge the remnant clubs with the NCL but that was never going to happen in a sport as fractured as ours.

Been done before and completely failed.

[tim2]

I understand all that Tim and before any funding came on stream the RFL didn't want anything to do with the amateur game and the only reason they do at the moment is to try and sustain the funding, if it all stopped tomorrow the RFL would drop you all like a top of bricks.

Yes, I know. I always worked on the fact that the last 3 years were an opportunity to take advantage of something that may not happen again. I don't think we, as a club, have quite capitalised on it as we should but we are in decent shape and will survive even if the funds are completely cut.

[Marauder]

I think that GS means outside Bowes with the implication being that BARLA didnt want to govern outside of the three traditional counties??

BARLA as a body where never asked directly to administer the tier4 summer game although the RFL did bypass BARLA and contact the leagues directly including the youth/juniors.

[TaxiEgg]

The amateur game will survive we are not as reliant on funding as much as the RFL. http://www.rugbyleaguecares.org/

[Marauder]

The amateur game will survive we are not as reliant on funding as much as the RFL. http://www.rugbyleaguecares.org/

Thats true, all the work we have done this summer on our ground has been our own coin with the exception of £6k from the local council and a £1k grant for the new goal posts, not one red cent has come from the RFL.

[bowes]

Been done before and completely failed.

Yeah though hard to know what the alternative is. Hemel and Skolars could manage the drop to NCL but not sure anyone else could.