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[bowes]

NCL ballots are secret. And always invigilated scupulously.

Clubs know what they need to do to ask for a ballot.

This thread is extremely invigorating , but not too many posters are actually involved at NCL level...

The NCL is committed to an MOU with the RFL and expect them to stick to their side of it.

That MOU contained what the NCL largely wanted .The move to summer was independent of that. Sorry if that upsets you non NCL conspiracy theorists out there.....

I expect the NCL clubs to stick together, one way or the other. People outside the League perhaps do not have / share the brotherhood of this organisation.

As for expansion Bowes and others , this will remain a matter entirely for the NCL. Only half of the applicants at this stage look to have a chance.....

The day the NCL committee ceases to be in charge will be the day I expect most of the committee to step aside.....does anyone think that is likely to happen ?

I have long held the view that the RFL would struggle to run the daily process of running Leagues without committed volunteer administrators. I have seen nothing recently to change that view....

I'd estimated 7 or 8 suitable applicants but couldn't work out all 18 so half sounds about right. Agonisingly close to a full division as well.

[del capo]

probably the wrong term but we would all like to live on the hill in the big house, unfortunately we can't all afford it, this brings me to say how do you suggest keeping clubs in the brotherhood who are struggling for players and cash since the switch to summer?

Get them to speak to Trevor Hunt or their club rep. Sooner rather than later. I know he has done this with 2 clubs already

You are I believe ex - forces

Did the Forces invite you to be upfront with the officers or subvert the team by going behind their backs ?

Stupid question I know

If there are any NCL clubs who feel they have to be winter bound (not sure there are ) then they owe it to NCL to say so now before next year's league format is resolved....

I live in a semi ....on a bed of sand apparently...........

[del capo]

Agreed, the move to Summer was independant/outside of any MOU and a move to summer was voted on by clubs from other regional leagues as well, but that is it, as they could not vote on accepting any MOU or even understand what it might relate to as it was never outlined to the clubs of some other regional leagues until a considerable period of time after it had been signed, the question is, given the current state of affairs.........why?

What on earth are you on about ? I'm talking about the NCL here , not regional leagues.......

Take your problems to a different forum ,if there is one that can accommodate you..........

[Marauder]

Get them to speak to Trevor Hunt or their club rep. Sooner rather than later. I know he has done this with 2 clubs already

You are I believe ex - forces

Did the Forces invite you to be upfront with the officers or subvert the team by going behind their backs ?

Stupid question I know

If there are any NCL clubs who feel they have to be winter bound (not sure there are ) then they owe it to NCL to say so now before next year's league format is resolved....

I live in a semi ....on a bed of sand apparently...........

I spent most of my time in a 4 or 5 man OP team where everyone is on first name terms, other than that you had to work up the chain of command.

I understand and believe you are right with being up-front, but it seems to be human nature to put things off until it's to late as many businesses have done to their detriment.

After spending 7 of the last 8 seasons being involved in the RLC I expected a few problems with player numbers but not this early, trust me it will get a lot worse, we had the use of players from 3 local clubs and also a small band of travelling players, we got between 40 and the mid 50's training but twice in our last season could only muster 15 on match day, on other occasions we could have 50 players, this was all down to family commitments on a weekend.

We play out of a local working mans club so bar taking never bothered us and our crowds probably never changed much between the two seasons but in the summer we did have supporters travelling from other areas so that could have had an influence.

[bowes]

If there are any NCL clubs who feel they have to be winter bound (not sure there are ) then they owe it to NCL to say so now before next year's league format is resolved....

I'd like to know Castleford Panthers' reasoning in entering a team in Pennine league division 1 as this seems far too high for their reserve team. Maybe they're hedging their bets to decide later (as the first team would have been placed higher)?

[Marauder]

I'd like to know Castleford Panthers' reasoning in entering a team in Pennine league division 1 as this seems far too high for their reserve team. Maybe they're hedging their bets to decide later (as the first team would have been placed higher)?

Take a look at the local sides who play in a short summer season, for example a few Fryston players have gone to Sharlston, if Sharlston are doing well will they go back for the summer (Underbank in reverse)

[bowes]

Take a look at the local sides who play in a short summer season, for example a few Fryston players have gone to Sharlston, if Sharlston are doing well will they go back for the summer (Underbank in reverse)

Doubt they'd want to play Yorkshire Men's so yeah seems likely

[del capo]

I spent most of my time in a 4 or 5 man OP team where everyone is on first name terms, other than that you had to work up the chain of command.

I understand and believe you are right with being up-front, but it seems to be human nature to put things off until it's to late as many businesses have done to their detriment.

After spending 7 of the last 8 seasons being involved in the RLC I expected a few problems with player numbers but not this early, trust me it will get a lot worse, we had the use of players from 3 local clubs and also a small band of travelling players, we got between 40 and the mid 50's training but twice in our last season could only muster 15 on match day, on other occasions we could have 50 players, this was all down to family commitments on a weekend.

We play out of a local working mans club so bar taking never bothered us and our crowds probably never changed much between the two seasons but in the summer we did have supporters travelling from other areas so that could have had an influence.

Respect your comments Marauder . Keep them coming...........

[Cutsyke Raiders]

I'd like to know Castleford Panthers' reasoning in entering a team in Pennine league division 1 as this seems far too high for their reserve team. Maybe they're hedging their bets to decide later (as the first team would have been placed higher)?

Have you been on the Guessing glue again?
Panthers were one of the 28 that voted for summer.
No hedge betting, they want 4 seasons rugby.

[Cutsyke Raiders]

Take a look at the local sides who play in a short summer season, for example a few Fryston players have gone to Sharlston, if Sharlston are doing well will they go back for the summer (Underbank in reverse)

Fryston have been offered a higher tier of rugby next year, if they're good boys. . . . .

[Marauder]

Respect your comments Marauder . Keep them coming...........

I hope it doesn't become a case of we will make it work at all costs, I'd sooner common sense kick in to keep your brotherhood intact, it's not the format that will fail even though I'm against junior elite team building just to feed the professional game at the expense of amateur clubs.

[Marauder]

Fryston have been offered a higher tier of rugby next year, if they're good boys. . . . .

Yer and the Taliban have promised to sell raffle tickets for the Bradford Bulls.

[bowes]

Have you been on the Guessing glue again?
Panthers were one of the 28 that voted for summer.
No hedge betting, they want 4 seasons rugby.

Guess they'll average out the start and the ends of seasons getting hammered and hammering everyone else in the middle. Then again you don't have a good track record when you criticise me.

[Marauder]

Guess they'll average out the start and the ends of seasons getting hammered and hammering everyone else in the middle. Then again you don't have a good track record when you criticise me.

Cutsyke is well in the know Bowes, he keeps a lot close to his chest because of his position.

[bowes]

Cutsyke is well in the know Bowes, he keeps a lot close to his chest because of his position.

The last 2 times he said I was wrong a little later there was a press release saying I was right. On this occasion he is probably right for now as it's his local town, but it will prove impossible to sustain something like that as reserve players would leave if they keep getting replaced by first teamers

Edited by bowes, 29 August 2012 - 09:49 PM.

[Cutsyke Raiders]

Guess they'll average out the start and the ends of seasons getting hammered and hammering everyone else in the middle. Then again you don't have a good track record when you criticise me.

There's a few threads crying out for you to author.

"My 18 guesses for NCL membership"

"My 7 or 8 suitable applicants for membership based on my own estimation of what the 41 NCL clubs should be doing"

"Did Del Capo actually say 'should the NCL pull the drawbridge up! No more teams south of Warrington' "

[bowes]

There's a few threads crying out for you to author.

"My 18 guesses for NCL membership"

"My 7 or 8 suitable applicants for membership based on my own estimation of what the 41 NCL clubs should be doing"

"Did Del Capo actually say 'should the NCL pull the drawbridge up! No more teams south of Warrington' "

Out of the teams I've either heard as applying or strongly rumoured to be the ones I could see managing it are: Kells, Pilkington Recs, Wigan St Cuthberts, Hindley, Coventry (depending on Championship 1), Nottingham, Underbank with the maybe 8th being Bristol (would be more travel than this year for them but a decent club). I expect there's a couple more applicants keeping their cards close to their chest that would be ready. Really though I was perfectly accurate about the demise of the Yorkshire League and the Pennine League keeping higher divisions at 14 yet you insisted I was wrong.

Edited by bowes, 29 August 2012 - 10:02 PM.

[Marauder]

The last 2 times he said I was wrong a little later there was a press release saying I was right. On this occasion he is probably right for now as it's his local town, but it will prove impossible to sustain something like that as reserve players would leave if they keep getting replaced by first teamers

Maybe they will only use the players who want winter rugby, I've been to watch them a few times this season and trust me their was not many happy faces about and one of the committee mentioned all the negatives that have been aired on here, he did mention that the crowd that day was down by 50% and that was against Hunslet Warriors who are pretty local.

[bowes]

Fryston have been offered a higher tier of rugby next year, if they're good boys. . . . .

Th RFL would like a tier below NCL and above tier 4 (perhaps split north and south) so guess it would be there? If it comes off? Probably would be unlikely we'd have both that and NCL division 3. If not they'd have to play in the North West I guess for a better standard.

[bowes]

Maybe they will only use the players who want winter rugby, I've been to watch them a few times this season and trust me their was not many happy faces about and one of the committee mentioned all the negatives that have been aired on here, he did mention that the crowd that day was down by 50% and that was against Hunslet Warriors who are pretty local.

That would mean 2 sides of a more even strength rather than 1st and 2nd I guess? Would see them drop down the NCL table quickly though