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[Marauder]

I saw the RFL director/executive responsible for the community game at the Championship Grand Final, so I asked him what was happening. He basically said "don't worry, we'll know more very soon but something is being sorted". So he's confident, at least. Which I suppose is a good sign!

Ha Ha, That sounds about correct from what I was told last night by a sacked RFL Development officers, he said the RFL are a joke and are in disarray from top to bottom, he mentioned going into meeting where they basically made it up as they went along and if we are all honest it really does show.

[gingerjon]

Ha Ha, That sounds about correct from what I was told last night by a sacked RFL Development officers, he said the RFL are a joke and are in disarray from top to bottom, he mentioned going into meeting where they basically made it up as they went along and if we are all honest it really does show.

Really? Somebody who's been sacked from an organisation doesn't rate it much?

[West Country Eagle]

Ha Ha, That sounds about correct from what I was told last night

To be fair, this particular director, in my experience, does know what he's talking about. He told me he expected at least one club that had been offered a place in NCL3 to turn it down.

Looks like he was right

[bowes]

Ha Ha, That sounds about correct from what I was told last night by a sacked RFL Development officers, he said the RFL are a joke and are in disarray from top to bottom, he mentioned going into meeting where they basically made it up as they went along and if we are all honest it really does show.

There are concerns for most of the development officers' jobs because of Sport England cuts.

But there definitely is a plan for a league for the likes of Northampton, St Albans, Bristol, Nottingham etc just the line up is confirmed. Plans for such a league came out officially in 2010 or 2011 so we can't say it's made up in the spot. In fact the RFL have had hopes for such a league dating back to after the 2006 season.

[Marauder]

There are concerns for most of the development officers' jobs because of Sport England cuts.

But there definitely is a plan for a league for the likes of Northampton, St Albans, Bristol, Nottingham etc just the line up is confirmed. Plans for such a league came out officially in 2010 or 2011 so we can't say it's made up in the spot. In fact the RFL have had hopes for such a league dating back to after the 2006 season.

Did I state any specific area of development? I'd say the Tier3 Midlands is more an Idea and it's obviously they have not got a plan just yet.

This falls into what I was basically told, they (The RFL) come up with a idea without a plan on how to get from `A` to `B`, they then try to make up a plan on how to make it work as they go along.

I'm sure we are all aware they normally cock up with plan `A` without having a plan `B`anyway.

I also find it amusing how some call the RFL when they think things arn't going their way but soon change their tune once they feel the RFL have given them something.

[bowes]

The RFL are often bad but this plan is actually more advanced than you'd think.

[bearman]

To be fair, this particular director, in my experience, does know what he's talking about. He told me he expected at least one club that had been offered a place in NCL3 to turn it down.

Looks like he was right

According to the NCL website Nottingham Outlaws and Barrow Island declined the option. The other 7 have been admitted and there are another two clubs being considered.

[jonnyg28]

According to the NCL website Nottingham Outlaws and Barrow Island declined the option. The other 7 have been admitted and there are another two clubs being considered.

Who is being considered?

[bowes]

Who is being considered?

Your new bid and Blackbrook I believe. Anyone else meeting criteria is welcome to apply.

Edited by bowes, 08 October 2012 - 01:29 PM.

[jonnyg28]

Your new bid and Blackbrook I believe. Anyone else meeting criteria is welcome to apply.

Should make for a strong league.

[bowes]

Should make for a strong league.

Yes.

You'll be our local derby

[Marauder]

The RFL are often bad but this plan is actually more advanced than you'd think.

Mr Contradiction, two weeks ago you was doing a little bit of spread betting because you didn't know what the RFL was going to do next and now your saying this plan is in an advanced state Sounds more like we'll sit down with an idea to try and work a plan out.

[Marauder]

According to the NCL website Nottingham Outlaws and Barrow Island declined the option. The other 7 have been admitted and there are another two clubs being considered.

I'd like to see Bristol given a crack.

[The knowledge]

No need to worry then RL will come to the rescue like a knight shining amour or will it be in arriving too late at night dressed in dull tinfoil after the wake!!

[del capo]

The NCL remains the bedrock of Tier 3. That will not change , nor for the duration of the agreement with the RFL will it's governance.

Nottingham have declined for reasons explained elsewhere on these threads ; Barrow Island largely withdrew because of planning issues ( trees and field works ?) Both clubs respected the process and will be welcome again should the shoe fit.

The NCL will proceed with a third division of ten if necessary. I have heard talk of other applications. Should they materialize ( the application process is never closed ) then they will be treated with due process and if appropriate club vote further down the line.....

The NCL Management have meanwhile to consider and advise upon , as normal, the re-selection process and issues of fixture failures in what has been a trying season.....

And so to the rest of Tier 3.

Think ' Hub ' activity. A Midlands League at ( almost ) NCL levels is a progressive and sustainable model And more easily fundable. It has been in the making for longer than most people realise. London / South will follow later.

Coventry need NCL opposition prior to CC1 ; Bristol need to rain check their massive gains over the last 3 months before moving forward.

And for the visionaries , Tier 3 outside the NCL could well prove to be an entirely different ball game to that in the heartlands ,with CC1 running reserves in the same competition as stand alone clubs........

Traditional structures / innovative approaches ? Great debates to be had..........

[tim2]

Tier 3 in the Midlands and South might have to have a different set of standards and rules to the more established NCL, and I don't see any contradiction in this provided the aim of the southern league is to achieve the levels of the northern one, off the pitch and on.

[bowes]

Mr Contradiction, two weeks ago you was doing a little bit of spread betting because you didn't know what the RFL was going to do next and now your saying this plan is in an advanced state Sounds more like we'll sit down with an idea to try and work a plan out.

You're confusing the plan existing with me knowing of its existence.

[bowes]

Tier 3 in the Midlands and South might have to have a different set of standards and rules to the more established NCL, and I don't see any contradiction in this provided the aim of the southern league is to achieve the levels of the northern one, off the pitch and on.

Yes.

Also the definition of Midlands won't match the official one. I expect to see clubs from the South West and East included with possibilities of outposts in north London, South Wales and South Yorkshire. If London and South is a long term plan as well then naturally the league will need to expand before it buds off the new league (which could look to build on the junior development in places like Surrey and Kent as well as London)

A CC1 Coventry Bears could enter reserves in the midlands division.

[Marauder]

The NCL remains the bedrock of Tier 3. That will not change , nor for the duration of the agreement with the RFL will it's governance.

Nottingham have declined for reasons explained elsewhere on these threads ; Barrow Island largely withdrew because of planning issues ( trees and field works ?) Both clubs respected the process and will be welcome again should the shoe fit.

The NCL will proceed with a third division of ten if necessary. I have heard talk of other applications. Should they materialize ( the application process is never closed ) then they will be treated with due process and if appropriate club vote further down the line.....

The NCL Management have meanwhile to consider and advise upon , as normal, the re-selection process and issues of fixture failures in what has been a trying season.....

And so to the rest of Tier 3.

Think ' Hub ' activity. A Midlands League at ( almost ) NCL levels is a progressive and sustainable model And more easily fundable. It has been in the making for longer than most people realise. London / South will follow later.

Coventry need NCL opposition prior to CC1 ; Bristol need to rain check their massive gains over the last 3 months before moving forward.

And for the visionaries , Tier 3 outside the NCL could well prove to be an entirely different ball game to that in the heartlands ,with CC1 running reserves in the same competition as stand alone clubs........

Traditional structures / innovative approaches ? Great debates to be had..........

Reading the League Express today and it seems that it's a done deal with Championship players (Up to 5 to be able to play at one time) playing in the NCL - Don't forget you heard it here first.

[Marauder]

You're confusing the plan existing with me knowing of its existence.