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Hillsborough (merged threads)


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#101 gingerjon

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:21 AM

 

It may be 20+ years on but at least we're getting to be pretty clear on who the real #### were on the day and afterwards.


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#102 gingerjon

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:21 AM

Honestly, that wasn't such a bad word to be swearified.


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#103 JohnM

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:29 AM

maybe not but this is: **** , no more no less. :angry:  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:


Edited by ckn, 20 August 2013 - 09:35 AM.
Another word to add to the sweary word filter


#104 ckn

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:34 AM

A bit too much opinion and faux outrage from the newspaper in that article, much like many of the articles on this story.  Just tell the truth, it's shocking and damning enough without having to jazz it up a bit to make a story.  It also devalues the entire Hillsborough tragedy and crime by making it into an endless media pit where journalists can just poke the victims families with carefully worded headlines and get soundbite reactions, if they don't get the right reaction they go on to the next victim until they get one that suits.

 

The truth of the story is near the bottom:

The Deputy Chief Constable of South Yorkshire, Andy Holt, said yesterday: “In 1991 a number of organisations which had been involved in the tragedy, including South Yorkshire Police, were contacted by the trustees and invited to submit suggestions about how they could use some of the residual money better to equip them.

“As a result, South Yorkshire Police formally submitted a number of suggestions.” He added: “I am not aware that any of the various suggestions succeeded in attracting funding. ”

 

If the police had declined to accept any offer of aid for the police officers, some of whom genuinely have PTSD as a result of Hillsborough, then I can easily imagined a story headline today of "Callous police chiefs rejected Hillsborough Fund's generous offer of aid to policemen affected by Hillsborough tragedy".


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#105 gingerjon

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:36 AM

A bit too much opinion and faux outrage from the newspaper in that article, much like many of the articles on this story.  Just tell the truth, it's shocking and damning enough without having to jazz it up a bit to make a story.  It also devalues the entire Hillsborough tragedy and crime by making it into an endless media pit where journalists can just poke the victims families with carefully worded headlines and get soundbite reactions, if they don't get the right reaction they go on to the next victim until they get one that suits.

 

The truth of the story is near the bottom:

 

If the police had declined to accept any offer of aid for the police officers, some of whom genuinely have PTSD as a result of Hillsborough, then I can easily imagined a story headline today of "Callous police chiefs rejected Hillsborough Fund's generous offer of aid to policemen affected by Hillsborough tragedy".

 

I can cope with the police being in a no-win situation.


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#106 JohnM

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:38 AM

maybe not but this is: **** , no more no less. :angry:  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:

 

Edited by ckn, Today, 10:35 AM. 
Another word to add to the sweary word filter.......Pleased to be of assistance!  


Edited by JohnM, 20 August 2013 - 09:38 AM.


#107 Griff9of13

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:00 PM

Just when you thought it couldn't get much worse: Hillsborough police paid money found among the dead into force’s coffers

 

I know the sums don't amount to a huge amount, but it's still effectively robbing from the dead. 


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#108 Griff

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:07 PM

I like the comment that it was in accordance with the policy in force at the time.

 

As though such a policy should ever have been in force at any time.


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#109 Tiny Tim

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:13 PM

Just when you thought it couldn't get much worse: Hillsborough police paid money found among the dead into force’s coffers

 

I know the sums don't amount to a huge amount, but it's still effectively robbing from the dead. 

Bit of a non-story really. They have so much more to answer for.


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#110 Griff9of13

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:33 PM

Bit of a non-story really. They have so much more to answer for.

 

Maybe in itself pretty trivial, but had this, along with some of the other things that have subsequently come out about SYP, been known at the time altered the course of events? I think so. For example it would have gone a long way to undermine the propaganda about the Liverpool fans robbing the dead etc.


Edited by Griff9of13, 02 September 2013 - 02:34 PM.

"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

#111 ckn

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:37 PM

Bit of a non-story really.

In terms on monetary value, yes.  In terms of principle, no, especially given this headline after the tragedy.

 

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#112 Tiny Tim

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 02:56 PM

In terms on monetary value, yes.  In terms of principle, no, especially given this headline after the tragedy.

 

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The newspaper article contains outright lies, whereas the £14.53 was handled according to police policy. I appreciate in context the policy seems shocking, especially given the lies that were spread by this police force, but I am sure this policy would have been followed on many occasions previously without comment and probably with much larger sums of money involved.


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#113 Griff

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 05:11 PM

Urinated on the brave cops ?

 

How brave do you have to be to help someone out of an overcrowded pen ?


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#114 Larry the Leit

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:29 PM

Urinated on the brave cops ?
 
How brave do you have to be to help someone out of an overcrowded pen ?


I'm ashamed to say I'd never noticed that. I never got past the first outrageous lie.
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#115 ckn

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 01:29 PM

New details on the depth of the police investigation going on now, including investigations into gross negligence manslaughter


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#116 Futtocks

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 10:38 AM

Margaret Thatcher's former press secretary 'Sir' Bernard Ingham responds in 1996 to a Liverpool fan unhappy at comments he made about the Hillsborough disaster.

 

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What a charmer...


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