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[Severus]

It could be because it taps into the excessive British class consciousness and it brings out those who suffer from a cultural cringe and sense of inadequacy, which are blatantly apparent in the way these individuals parade their deeply held prejudices.

Guilty as charged m'lud.

[back to the future]

great start then faded then got worse,thank god for colsaerts,mind you the yanks have been birdie magic in the afternoon

[T-Dub]

Because it's over-hyped and it's importance to the nation as whole completely overstated by those who are into it.

Because, like union, it is associated (rightly or wrongly) with middle class social climbing and snobbery.

Because of the stupid clothing.

But most of all, because it is very, very dull.

HTH

My golf clubs have only been out once in the last 12 years but I used to hack about quite a bit when I was younger

Its important nationaly because its a large participation sport, because its healthy, can be played by all ages and abilities and is completely international . Name me a country that doesnt have a golf course. Also any level of ability can play against any other with a chance of winning, because of the handicap system. Its also possible for a dud like me to play where pros would play - eg St Andrews or The Belfry - could an amateur club RL player ever play at Wembley, local club tennis player at Wimbledon or a village cricketer at Lords?

The middle class snobbery is largely a myth. Some clubs maybe, but Ive played at many from posh ones with stupid rules to Barnsley, West Bradford etc which are as down to earth as your local BARLA clubhouse. I can assure you those weekend warriors playing round the smouldering cars at Temple Newsam aren't stockbrokers or surgeons

The stupid clothing thing is also a myth. Some posh clubs have a no jeans policy but generally you wear whats comfortable. The slacks and tartan image is 1970s Ronnie Corbett and Jimmy Tarbuck , not reality, just like modern Rugby League isnt Eddie Waring and pot bellied, toothless miners

You could apply any of these stereotypes in reverse to amateur RL clubs, would they be true?

Edited by T-Dub, 29 September 2012 - 11:36 AM.

[Johnoco]

There's 18 holes in golf right? And you have to get 18 balls in, in the fewest number of 'shots' (or whatever)
Par is going round in the exact number of shots for that course...Is this correct?

So what are Eagles and birdies and stuff?

[longboard]

Guilty as charged m'lud.

It's time for you to go to the re-education camp.

[bobbruce]

There's 18 holes in golf right? And you have to get 18 balls in, in the fewest number of 'shots' (or whatever)
Par is going round in the exact number of shots for that course...Is this correct?

So what are Eagles and birdies and stuff?

As you say a par is the set number of shots for a whole. One shot under par is a birdie two shots under is an eagle three shots under is an albatross. You go the other way and one shot over par is a bogey.

[T-Dub]

There's 18 holes in golf right? And you have to get 18 balls in, in the fewest number of 'shots' (or whatever)
Par is going round in the exact number of shots for that course...Is this correct?

So what are Eagles and birdies and stuff?

Yes, That version of golf is called medal or stroke play. Thats how they play the usual competions, eg The Open, Masters, Sunday comp at your local club etc

The Ryder Cup, however is matchplay, man against man (or two players against two yesterday), where the score is whoever wins each hole rather than how many they take to do it in.

To make sense of how the result is announced eg 4 and 2 is winning by 4 holes with only 2 left

In the Ryder Cup if you win your match you get a point, some matches finish all square so both teams get half a point. The winning team needs 14 1/2 points to win (or 14 to retain)

Edited by T-Dub, 30 September 2012 - 12:09 PM.

[Johnoco]

Thanks T and bob. Didn't know that, cheers.

[THUNDERNEWS]

I thought we were all done for before the start of the last day - it's riveting stuff now though

My golf clubs have only been out once in the last 12 years but I used to hack about quite a bit when I was younger

Its important nationaly because its a large participation sport, because its healthy, can be played by all ages and abilities and is completely international . Name me a country that doesnt have a golf course. Also any level of ability can play against any other with a chance of winning, because of the handicap system. Its also possible for a dud like me to play where pros would play - eg St Andrews or The Belfry - could an amateur club RL player ever play at Wembley, local club tennis player at Wimbledon or a village cricketer at Lords?

The middle class snobbery is largely a myth. Some clubs maybe, but Ive played at many from posh ones with stupid rules to Barnsley, West Bradford etc which are as down to earth as your local BARLA clubhouse. I can assure you those weekend warriors playing round the smouldering cars at Temple Newsam aren't stockbrokers or surgeons

The stupid clothing thing is also a myth. Some posh clubs have a no jeans policy but generally you wear whats comfortable. The slacks and tartan image is 1970s Ronnie Corbett and Jimmy Tarbuck , not reality, just like modern Rugby League isnt Eddie Waring and pot bellied, toothless miners

You could apply any of these stereotypes in reverse to amateur RL clubs, would they be true?

Good post and very true - I've only really been subject by snobbery by very few people and I think this is more a microcosm of society rather than a reflection of golf.

[amh]

10 - 8 nervy

[Methven Hornet]

I'm not really sure what's going on at the moment - some reports seem to be hinting at a fightback, others predict quite an easy US victory.

Just a comment on golf being for 'management' types. When I go to work tomorrow (RM delivery office), the talk at the sorting frames will be about, first, Scottish football, second, English football, but the real passion will involve how everyone did on the golf course. I would estimate that two thirds of the posties at work - about as working class as you can get - not only play the game but play most weekends. Most social events outside of winter - someone leaving or getting married - involve a golf tournament as starters.

It looks an interesting game but I just don't think I could find the time on a regular basis. Golf courses do make excellent terrain for night orienteering, though - the greens being out of bounds, obviously!

[back to the future]

fantastic entertainment

[gingerjon]

Well, that was dull...

[back to the future]

Well, that was dull...

yeah it was

[West Country Eagle]

Well, that was dull...

Aye. Amazing finish. Always something good about beating the Americans, but to do it from 10-4 down at one point is unbelievable. Some immense performances today, from what I can gather. Watched the last hour or so - got very tense. Before that I was keeping up with it via Radio 5 Live's coverage on the car radio. Inverdale may be an oily crevice clown, but he's in his element when anchoring live coverage like this. Genuinely, the 5 LIve team conveyed the tension and excitement really well.

[fieldofclothofgold]

I've only found out that Europe has won because i've been in the bar in the mall watching the most boring sensless game ever created!NFL .Now I like baseball ,and warming a little bit to ice hockey,even Lacrosse,but that "football"as they call it as if they invented the word,is the most tedious game there is.Worse than union

[Old Frightful]

Woods conceding was a bit of a moment.

I kept looking to see if some bird had turned up asking if he fancied a sh*g.

Well done to the European boys, certainly turned round what looked like an unassailable Yank lead.

[back to the future]

Any idiots who did'nt think that was'nt entertaining are well ,,,,,,,

cant believe posters of an age over 12 dont know the rules

[Severus]

Glad Europe won.

Didn't watch a shot as its not my cup of tea. I also don't know the rules of golf apart from you have to get the ball in the hole in the lowest number of shots. Is it really that unusual for people not to bother with golf?

Edited by Severus, 01 October 2012 - 12:03 AM.

[hindle xiii]

Any idiots who did'nt think that was'nt entertaining are well ,,,,,,,

Regardless of entertainment, golf is enough to put anyone in a severe comma.