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[ckn]

http://www.newsnetsc...-snp-in-england

[gingerjon]

We ran a fake election in our school in '92.

Surprise victory for Plaid Cymru just outside Carlisle.

[Severus]

Good (speaking as a former Lib Dem voter)

[gingerjon]

Green next time for you Sev?

Or back to a remarkably unchanged Labour party?

I'm abstaining.

[Severus]

Green next time for you Sev?

Or back to a remarkably unchanged Labour party?

I'm abstaining.

Not much choice is there. Socialist Workers party?

Edited by Severus, 01 October 2012 - 08:41 AM.

[JohnM]

The real opinion poll is still 2 1/2 years away and I'd love to see the SNP field candidates in the North of England. Wouldn't that be a moment of truth in so many ways!

[JohnM]

Socialist Workers

Oxymoron, surely! OR do you still fancy Vanessa Redgrave?

[Phil]

Oxymoron, surely! OR do you still fancy Vanessa Redgrave?

she was a leading light in the Workers Revolutionary Party - a totally different beast.


"The polling result would appear to suggest that more people in the North of England would prefer to throw in their lot with an independent Scotland than trust the Lib Dems" Yeah definitely.

[Severus]

Oxymoron, surely! OR do you still fancy Vanessa Redgrave?

Cheeky ######. Us socialists are hard at work at the coal face whilst capitalists are off on the golf course having a jolly.

[JohnM]

she was a leading light in the Workers Revolutionary Party - a totally different beast.

Quite, but a little licence was needed!

[JohnM]

Cheeky ######. Us socialists are hard at work at the coal face whilst capitalists are off on the golf course having a jolly.

not on the golf course. off to the Cologne Oktoberfest on Thursday, though.

[Phil]

Quite, but a little licence was needed!

[Futtocks]

she was a leading light in the Workers Revolutionary Party - a totally different beast.

I thought she was with the People's Front of Judaea...

[Wolford6]

Not totally bad news for the LibDems. They still hold a 1.5% lead in popularity over genital herpes.

[ckn]

Not totally bad news for the LibDems. They still hold a 1.5% lead in popularity over genital herpes.

That's only because the status symbol of genital herpes implies that the victim has had a shag at some point. Being a member of the Lib Dem party at the moment typically implies that you're not going to be getting any at any time soon.

[gingerjon]

Also herpes would not be popular as a personal option but if in its manifesto it stated clearly that Piers Morgan would be getting a dose soon ...

[JohnM]

That's only because the status symbol of genital herpes implies that the victim has had a shag at some point. Being a member of the Lib Dem party at the moment typically implies that you're not going to be getting any at any time soon.

and shagging is not associative. Shagging is not equivalent to being shagged

[Wolford6]

and shagging is not associative. Shagging is not equivalent to being shagged

Sorry JM, but I beg to differ.

The LibDems associated themselves with the Tories. They thought they were shagging Labour but, instead, will find themselves well shagged by the time the next election arrives.

[Exiled Townie]

I'm not one of those that only votes for one particular political party no matter what. I like to think that come the local/general elections that I weigh up the pros and cons, read the manifestos, work out who I think is best for me, my family and my country and vote accordingly, but at this moment in time I am stumped as to who I would vote for when the next election comes around.
The three main part leaders are just clones of one another, and I feel that the majority (not all) of politicians are in it for themselves. Maybe its time to start voting for the smaller parties, probably won't achieve anything, but at least I won't have voted for those complete and utter waste of spaces in the three main parties.

[Methven Hornet]

When I first saw this story, my immediate reaction was that it chimed with what a lot of people from the north that I know - family and friends - have said to me. Why can't we have the option of voting for someone like the SNP?

Then I looked at the question: "The Conservatives, Labour, the Liberal Democrats and other parties would fight a new election in your area. If there were a general election tomorrow which party do you think you would vote for?". Just the three main UK parties had been mentioned; questions like this have been shown in tests to introduce bias towards parties which are specifically mentioned in polling questions (as opposed to the respondents being presented with a list of possible choices). What would the SNP's result have been had they been specifically included in the question.

Then I got to thinking how well the SNP could do in the north if they organised in the north of England, perhaps as the Northern Party, promising to represent the people of the north as they have the Scots. How well would they poll if they were actually putting up candidates and were in the minds of people?

Then I looked at the polling data and the reality hit home. ICM, when they use the 'regions' North, Midlands and South, are referring to regions of Great Britain. Hence the 'North' total includes all those choices made by Scots respondents, including those choosing the SNP. Similarly, those choosing Plaid Cymru are included in the total for Wales, but also in the total for the Midlands (of Britain) aggregate. There aren't three Welsh nationalists running around Birmingham, determined to cast a postal vote for the party of Wales.

Still, it was a nice story while it lasted.