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#261 Johnoco

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:38 PM

Where form?

Just gossip really but apparently some people are waiting for the knock on the door.

#262 JohnM

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:31 AM

I've heard arrests are imminent?


Met police said so on tv just now. why warn the bastards? or are they trying to panic them into flight?

#263 jayemm

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:44 AM

Police have said that high profile arrests are due to be made today.

#264 Johnoco

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:54 AM

Agree that I don't understand the warnings. Surely they should just do it and not give someone the opportunity to do a runner.

#265 WearyRhino

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:41 AM

Combination of Public Relations Dept needing to justify its existence and rolling news channels constantly seeking comment.

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#266 longboard

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 09:00 AM

I doubt that there will be much danger of people scarpering despite the announcement. Sex offenders are often calculating and superficially co-operative individuals, who would surely know there is little point in adding to any suspicion against them by legging it. They will also know that if these are allegations from quite some time back the likelihood of them being found guilty of an offence, or offences, is low. For example, it is unlikely that there is forensic evidence still in existence, about an alleged sexual crime from 20 years if it is a new allegation. Most sexual crimes are Not witnessed by third parties either, although there have references in the media outlets to some acts being witnessed, eg at "parties." An experienced criminal will know that they can deny all charges and that the police will have difficulty with evidence, give the time and the impact that the crimes have upon the victims' ability to be a "credible" witness/accuser.

Quite why the police choose to announce they are about to do something is another matter. Perhaps it is about being seen to do something, when there is a maelstrom of coverage and speculation. Anyone who has had involvement in such matters knows they need to be approached thoughtfully and steadily, and hasty action can easily result in failure.

#267 Cherry and White

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:10 PM

Former TV presenter Freddie Starr has said he will speak to police in connection with alleged abuse carried out by Jimmy Savile.
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#268 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:14 PM

Former TV presenter Freddie Starr has said he will speak to police in connection with alleged abuse carried out by Jimmy Savile.


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#269 Mumby Magic

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:24 AM

Well in what could be a surprising, surreal week no surprise in Gary Glitter being the first arrested at 7.15am this morning.

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#270 Trojan

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:59 AM

What baffles me is how he got away with it for so long. When he was manager at the Mecca in Leeds
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he apparently paid off the parents of a girl who alleged he abused her. He was a volunteer hospital porter at LGI, but when he proposed himself to do the same at St James's they turned him down, presumably because there were rumours about his behaviour. There must have been plenty of people over the years who knew how suspect he was but let him get away with it. Indeed in the BBC and NHS's case let him mix unsupervised with children. You have to wonder how many more such people are still in circulation, still carrying out their abominable practises.
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#271 John Rhino

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 10:08 AM

The independent stirs the pot.

Savile apparently lured young women to his cottage in Scotland.
Prince Charles allegedly sent Savile a Christmas card with the message "give my love to your ladies in Scotland"

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#272 fieldofclothofgold

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:18 PM

The independent stirs the pot.

Savile apparently lured young women to his cottage in Scotland.
Prince Charles allegedly sent Savile a Christmas card with the message "give my love to your ladies in Scotland"

There is apparently no limit on how far this enquiry will go
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
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#273 Wolford6

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:07 PM

Jimmy Savile has got a lot to answer for ... not least giving Esther Rantzen the chance to shoehorn herself into every TV news bulletin and daily newspaper.

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#274 longboard

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:31 PM

There is apparently no limit on how far this enquiry will go


There are, and will be, plenty of limits to the enquiry. Press and other media speculation will run amok until they are tired of it, or some other issue becomes the dog whistle topic.

#275 fieldofclothofgold

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:34 PM

There are, and will be, plenty of limits to the enquiry. Press and other media speculation will run amok until they are tired of it, or some other issue becomes the dog whistle topic.

I would not repeat on here the names of politians from the Thatcher era I have seen mentioned elswhere
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
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#276 Hornetto

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:36 PM

Savile was 'banned' from any involvement in Children in Need.



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#277 JohnM

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:24 PM

I would not repeat on here the names of politians from the Thatcher era I have seen mentioned elswhere


why ever not? It is exactly this fear that kept so may of Savile's victims quiet for so long. If you know something, you must say.

#278 Northern Sol

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:04 PM

Libel that's why.

This website would be liable.

#279 JohnM

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:14 PM

If its true, it ain't libel, if it is false, then he is engaging in the worst sort of smear. he can always claim the "public interest" defence.

#280 Northern Sol

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:22 PM

It's not libel if you can prove it.

If it is true but you can't prove it then it's still libel.

And frankly even if you could prove it, I doubt that John would be too pleased.