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#161 Hornetto

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:07 AM

As good an analysis of the 'Savile situation' as I've seen.


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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:29 AM

As good an analysis of the 'Savile situation' as I've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIx_b41wzbs&feature=related


Wasn't exactly funny, but yes a pretty good analysis of the situation. Good on them for not shying away from the issue.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:33 AM

Wasn't exactly funny, but yes a pretty good analysis of the situation. Good on them for not shying away from the issue.


wrong place wrong time. I don't think it worked.

one or two things fell flat on last week's show

but as you say good on them
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:54 AM

Yes, agree with the above. Some good comments on the actions and bogus wise hindsight from some sections of the yellow press.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:35 AM

wrong place wrong time. I don't think it worked.

one or two things fell flat on last week's show

but as you say good on them


I tend to agree, I don't think it worked as well as it could have, but it wasn't a complete failure. The fact that the fake script had been flying about had to be addressed and I'm glad they did mention it, unlike all the other topical BBC comedy shows. It set up a really odd tone, that the rest of the show failed to recover from even though on paper the lineup was quite good.

I'm guessing they didn't expect as much of the discussion on the night to get into the final show, but the rest of the show was under a bit of a shadow after that so I guess they left it in for a fair reflection. Hopefully tonight's will be a little different as it hasn't dominated the headlines as much.

That said, as you would expect Private Eye this week has a lot more indepth coverage on this issue and the hypocracy of the press.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:54 AM

http://www.guardian....vile-pervy-look


Is it me or would this headline not be out of place on the Daily Mash site?

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#167 Amber Avenger

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:06 PM

To be fair, Lost in Showbiz is designed to take to task the showbiz stories of the week, it isn't a headline from the news part of the paper.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:25 PM

To be fair, Lost in Showbiz is designed to take to task the showbiz stories of the week, it isn't a headline from the news part of the paper.


True, the story still lowers my already rock bottom opinion of Kerry Katona and OK magazine even further though.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 05:07 PM

Chaucer comments quite cynically on the abuse of indulgences. These abuses were one of the grievances against the church that Luther et al listed.

There were a fair few grievances too, if memory serves from my days of RE.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 06:59 PM

There were a fair few grievances too, if memory serves from my days of RE.


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Posted 19 October 2012 - 07:14 PM

wrong place wrong time. I don't think it worked.

one or two things fell flat on last week's show

but as you say good on them

I think they had an issue to address and may have chosen to sacrifice the one show to make sure that it was well and truly made clear what the situation was. They certainly didn't shy away from tricky topics even if it killed the usual humour of the show.

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#172 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:38 PM

I think they had an issue to address and may have chosen to sacrifice the one show to make sure that it was well and truly made clear what the situation was. They certainly didn't shy away from tricky topics even if it killed the usual humour of the show.


I'll go with that

but there was also a joke about crashing planes into tall buildings which grated with the audience as well.
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#173 Padge

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:02 PM

I'll go with that

but there was also a joke about crashing planes into tall buildings which grated with the audience as well.

I think that was a badly judged attempt to get the show back on track, at least they had the balls not to cut it.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 11:06 PM

The NSPCC have branded Jimmy Savile the worst predatory paedophile ever. If this is the case how was he able to get away with it for so long? OK he was a big star. He was a powerful man. But so was Jonathan King, so was Gary Glitter. I just don't get why someone somewhere didn't blow the whistle
Maybe they did and no one heard it? Or some one deliberately supressed the facts? If such a man can get away with such acts for so long, you have to ask how many more are there?
I must admit I never paid much attention to him in recent years. My kids used to watch Jim'll Fix It, and TBH I thought that got pretty boring. The last time I remember really listening to him was on Savile's Travels on Sundays in the seventies, and he did come across as something of a sexist. But then many people did in those days. Puzzling.
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 12:57 PM

The NSPCC have branded Jimmy Savile the worst predatory paedophile ever. If this is the case how was he able to get away with it for so long? OK he was a big star. He was a powerful man. But so was Jonathan King, so was Gary Glitter. I just don't get why someone somewhere didn't blow the whistle
Maybe they did and no one heard it? Or some one deliberately supressed the facts? If such a man can get away with such acts for so long, you have to ask how many more are there?
I must admit I never paid much attention to him in recent years. My kids used to watch Jim'll Fix It, and TBH I thought that got pretty boring. The last time I remember really listening to him was on Savile's Travels on Sundays in the seventies, and he did come across as something of a sexist. But then many people did in those days. Puzzling.

At the time of his death and his 3 day funeral ,there were just one or two murmurings about his sex abuses,but they were shouted down,but I too still cant get my head round how he got away with it for so long.
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 04:02 PM

The NSPCC have branded Jimmy Savile the worst predatory paedophile ever. If this is the case how was he able to get away with it for so long? OK he was a big star. He was a powerful man. But so was Jonathan King, so was Gary Glitter. I just don't get why someone somewhere didn't blow the whistle
Maybe they did and no one heard it? Or some one deliberately supressed the facts? If such a man can get away with such acts for so long, you have to ask how many more are there?
I must admit I never paid much attention to him in recent years. My kids used to watch Jim'll Fix It, and TBH I thought that got pretty boring. The last time I remember really listening to him was on Savile's Travels on Sundays in the seventies, and he did come across as something of a sexist. But then many people did in those days. Puzzling.

Gary Glitter only got found out because he took a faulty computer to be repaired and they found kiddie porn on it when they were fixing it.

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#177 JohnM

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 04:12 PM

A BBC cover up? Surely not!

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 04:43 PM

Gary Glitter only got found out because he took a faulty computer to be repaired and they found kiddie porn on it when they were fixing it.


There was at least one newspaper article about Gary Glitter having sex with an underage girl well before the computer containing child pornography images led to his arrest and prosecution I think. IIRC the then young woman revealed her identity in the newspaper article.

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 04:52 PM

A BBC cover up? Surely not!


It's noteworthy and repulsive how sections of the press are using the allegations against Savile to bash the BBC. Whether or not the BBC broadcast a documentary about Savile, and whatever the reasons why it wasn't shown, are tiny matters compared to the truth about JS's activities and the involvement of other adults. It's a typical story of a media player being obsessed with another media organisation and spreading blame.

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 05:48 PM

There was at least one newspaper article about Gary Glitter having sex with an underage girl well before the computer containing child pornography images led to his arrest and prosecution I think. IIRC the then young woman revealed her identity in the newspaper article.

He was charged with having sex with a 14 year old girl ( the act was alleged to have take place 20 years earlier) but got off with it after it was revealed in court that the News of the World had offered the woman £25k if Glitter was convicted. She had already received £15k from NotW. That was in November 1999. The incident with the computer at PC World was in 1997.

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