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#21 OttO

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:28 PM

What's the odds on Havens 2013 squad having fewer Cumbrians than their 2012 squad? I'd say it's odds on now.!
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#22 Keith T

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:43 PM

How do these link ups work with the salary caps? Unless there are some tighter regulations coming out I can foresee it opening a can of worms!!!!

Say a team is close to the salary cap limit and signs on a player that pushes them over the cap limit. A fine and points deduction follows.

On the other hand a club could be close to the salary cap limit and because of a link up bring in a player on a much higher salary and supposedly that will be okay. Even though the SL club could be paying their players salary the Championship club is still getting an advantage over the other example above.

I think the whole system is fraught with potholes and needs to be given more thought as it seems to have been rushed through by SL clubs.

I remember when .............................

"It is impossible not to feel a twinge of sympathy for Workington Town, the fall guys this season for the Super League's determination to retain it's European dimension, in the shape of Paris. While the French have had every assistance to survive, the importance of having a flagship in a heartland area like West Cumbria has been conveniently forgotten." - Dave Hadfield - Independent 25th August 1996.


#23 The Voodooguru

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:45 PM

I can't make my mind up if this link up thing is a good thing or not. I suppose it will have its pros and cons.
If the club thinks its the way forward fair doo's but I'm not convinced.
I'm sure 10 miles down the road most will be happy as Saints are a big club and if your gonna jump in it may as well be with them.
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#24 fester

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:00 AM

We will still beat the ####### jam if they link up with all sl clubs hahahahahaha

#25 town4me

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:06 AM

Does this mean they have fell out with leeds and the rhinos wont be sending their U18's for the annual friendly lol. When will the jampots ever learn

#26 town4me

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:29 AM

Haven have missed out on top target stuart fielden. Deludedfans.com had him earmarked to be in a haven shirt next season but It appears they have just missed out to huddersfield giants who have landed the player. It must have been difficult for the player to turn such a massive club down. Lol

#27 DavidM

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:58 AM

Good point Keith . You can play five contracted SL players . If you're playing 5 Saints or Wigan players at our level that's a massive loophole in terms of the cap . There not yours your not paying them ! I've said along this whole thing is massively affecting this league . Only when we kick off will we see just how much and who the winners and losers are . But me thinks there's no going back now .

#28 GeordieTownie

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:04 PM

The thing being a team could get relegated because their BOD try to do things right, and another club could stay up because they agreed to be a super league feeder club

#29 DavidM

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:11 PM

Aye there's a lot of issues and ramifications from all this , many of which haven't been thought out or haven't surfaced yet .

#30 haven4ever

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:30 PM

the problem is some clubs jumped on board this idea before the championship clubs had even discussed this, it should have been discussed and guidelines agreed between the championship clubs before any link ups were formed

#31 town4me

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:03 PM

the problem is some clubs jumped on board this idea before the championship clubs had even discussed this, it should have been discussed and guidelines agreed between the championship clubs before any link ups were formed

link ups with cumbrian clubs wont work anyway because we're too far from the beaten track.

#32 wonky

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:32 PM

Let's be honest if they get a good player or 2 then that's great for them, but I can only see them getting what rochdale can't accommodate, and that's no knock on haven as it's just a simple geography observation. It would be exactly the same as ourselves. I hope we use there link up as leverage to sign the local lads as there always going to play 2nd fiddle to the saints lads
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#33 town4me

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:46 PM

Let's be honest if they get a good player or 2 then that's great for them, but I can only see them getting what rochdale can't accommodate, and that's no knock on haven as it's just a simple geography observation. It would be exactly the same as ourselves. I hope we use there link up as leverage to sign the local lads as there always going to play 2nd fiddle to the saints lads

agreed wonky lets go for the locals. I honestly dont think this link up is a good idea at all, and thats not just coz haven have done it.

#34 haven4ever

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 04:42 PM

haven could also use the link up to sign local talent,sign for haven play first team and or training with saints,play saints reserves or even move on it could work both ways
also what makes you think town are not looking at linking up with an SL club

Edited by haven4ever, 12 October 2012 - 04:55 PM.


#35 DavidM

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 04:47 PM

That's right , haven will no doubt try to entice locals with the Saints carrot. Given location coupled with the strength and quality of the amateur scene here it's a nobrainer they should be our base to build round

Edited by DavidM, 12 October 2012 - 04:52 PM.


#36 town4me

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:25 PM

haven could also use the link up to sign local talent,sign for haven play first team and or training with saints,play saints reserves or even move on it could work both ways
also what makes you think town are not looking at linking up with an SL club

town may well be looking to do it. What I'm saying is IMO I'm not sure its a good idea. Saints players will not travel up here three times a week to play second fiddle to locals H4E.

#37 Keith T

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:28 PM

haven could also use the link up to sign local talent,sign for haven play first team and or training with saints,play saints reserves or even move on it could work both ways
also what makes you think town are not looking at linking up with an SL club


I don't think that would necessarily work haven4ever, as it happens already with young lads being picked up by SL clubs at the age of 14 or 15. Look how many yongsters are with SL clubs that have not been anywhere near either of our clubs. For others there is also the problem of travelling and leaving good jobs to go to a SL club with any commitment.

I remember when .............................

"It is impossible not to feel a twinge of sympathy for Workington Town, the fall guys this season for the Super League's determination to retain it's European dimension, in the shape of Paris. While the French have had every assistance to survive, the importance of having a flagship in a heartland area like West Cumbria has been conveniently forgotten." - Dave Hadfield - Independent 25th August 1996.


#38 DavidM

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:30 PM

You could have 5 players coming up on a Friday , or after they discover they're not in the match day squad . Hard to gel a cohesive integrated team .

#39 Keith T

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:42 PM

I asked the RFL how this system worked with the Championship salary cap level and I got a reply back saying that SL players will each be given a Championship salary cap value that has to be worked in to existing salary cap levels for that league!!!!!

I remember when .............................

"It is impossible not to feel a twinge of sympathy for Workington Town, the fall guys this season for the Super League's determination to retain it's European dimension, in the shape of Paris. While the French have had every assistance to survive, the importance of having a flagship in a heartland area like West Cumbria has been conveniently forgotten." - Dave Hadfield - Independent 25th August 1996.


#40 Oracle

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 07:41 AM

town may well be looking to do it. What I'm saying is IMO I'm not sure its a good idea. Saints players will not travel up here three times a week to play second fiddle to locals H4E.

But how is the travelling any different to what out of town players for the 3 cumbrian clubs done to date? Barrow have signed 5-6 youngesters from Saints, Leeds, Warrington and Wigan recently wo are going to be travelling 2-3 times a week.
Anyway, think Haven will get the more experienced Saints players being in the CC, whereas Rochdale will get the developing players in the CC1

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