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[Padge]

whilst not a bad idea I think you'd have to include a discount system for having kids, particularly when people have children in their first year.

Why should we subsidise breeders.

I am p!$$£d off with because we chose not to have children I am continually penalised within the tax system, so that those that can't afford kids can have more.

[Northern Sol]

It seems you made the wrong choice.

[Padge]

It seems you made the wrong choice.

No I didn't. for what I want from life I made the right choice, I am punished by the government though for chosing a life without children. However people who have unplanned or planned children are allowed to take my money to pay for their holidays from my hard earned.

If you want kids the you fekin well pay for them not me.

[Northern Sol]

No I didn't. for what I want from life I made the right choice, I am punished by the government though for chosing a life without children. However people who have unplanned or planned children are allowed to take my money to pay for their holidays from my hard earned.

If you want kids the you fekin well pay for them not me.

I'm sure that your parent also claimed money on your behalf and you got a free education.

[Padge]

I'm sure that your parent also claimed money on your behalf and you got a free education.

I am sure they did claim money, and I did have free education, something I have no problem with. I even agree to a certain extent of 'free' university education.

My parents would have claimed money because they could, I didn't get a say in it.

Give me one good reason why I should pay more in tax overall for not having any children, why should I who puts less burden on society by not needing my children educated, by not having any claim on child benefit be subsidising those that cannot afford children without subsidies.

[Northern Sol]

Because you have a conscience and you would not like to see children brought up in poverty and secondly you will want a pension one day and it would be nice if there was somebody working to help pay for it.

[Padge]

Because you have a conscience and you would not like to see children brought up in poverty and secondly you will want a pension one day and it would be nice if there was somebody working to help pay for it.

I prefer to see children not born into poverty, rather than brought up in it. Offering money for children encourages breeding to get your hands on the money and sod the children.

I fail to see what your pension point has to do with subsidised breeding. Unless you mean that if we stop breeding we have no workforce to pay tax to pay pensions, I negate that by saying, if we stop paying people to breed we have more money for pensions.

[back to the future]

In this day and age NO pensioner should die from lack of heating in winter due to cold weather payments,the problem is these payments are paid in cash to the pensioners to which some buy better xmas presents for their grand children or children,the payment should be paid direct to their energy supplier so its used for what is was assigned to do

[JohnM]

some buy better xmas presents for their grand children or children

I assume you have evidence for that assertion?

###### the grandchildren....I spend mine on booze

[shaun mc]

The regulation of the energy industry goes against Tory free market philosophy, so take any headline banners with a pinch of salt.
'Regulations' will be so loosely written and enforcred that they will become redundant as the companies employing the bright sparks either put out press releases saying that they'll send their energy tax revenues abroad or they design ways around the regulations within 12 months, and we'll be in the same boat.

Neither the left or right wing governments have got to grips with a national energy policy in recent times, so now we are left with subsidising the French energy consumer a la EDF.

My first thoughts around this when was announced was that 'it'll be my bills that go up then, because I switch'. And I personally know people who don't bother to switch or save electricity/gas because it won't make any difference and have their heating set at about 27 - 28 degrees cos its nice and cosy. These people will see a saving for nothing.

A future energy policy has to be comprehensive as we are all in it together. Maybe the tarriffs have to be related to size of property, number of rooms, number of occupants, etc. An older person living in a small property in sheltered housing should not be paying similar to a family in a 3 bedroom semi. I'm not saying they do, but that should be the principle.

[JohnM]

Neither the left or right wing governments have got to grips with a national energy policy...

too true.

[Griff9of13]

too true.

That can be applied to all too many policies over the last few years I'm afraid.

[Johnoco]

When I was young, we had frost on the *inside* of our windows. No joke.

AND coats on the bed.

[Griff9of13]

When I was young, we had frost on the *inside* of our windows. No joke.

AND coats on the bed.

Same here.

[Johnoco]

Same here.

Happy days though.

[Griff9of13]

Happy days though.

I never remember feeling cold though. Even now I rarely put the thermostat above 20 degrees. Mrs isn't always too happy though!