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Expenses Lark Again

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#1 Wolford6

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:34 AM

This bloke has previous:

From Wikipedia:

Chris Bryant claimed over £92,000 in expenses over the five years leading up to the 2009 scandal over MP's expenses. During that time he flipped his second-home expenses twice, claimed mortgage interest expenses that started at £7,800 per year before rising (after flipping) to £12,000 per year. He also claimed £6,400 in stamp duty and other fees on his most recent purchase, and £6,000 per year in service charges. A claim that he made for £58,493.26, almost three times the annual maximum, in 2004, was disallowed.

Now he's seemingly at it again.

From Guido Fawkes:

http://order-order.c...-rent-swapping/

Yet this is one of the main protagonists Labour chose to front its attack on Rupert Murdoch.

I don't give this bloke any credibility whatsoever.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:46 AM

The thing is with the whole expenses scandal going back to the beginning, many of them weren't breaking the rules, but the rules are made and set by MPs and are absolutely ridiculous. Expenses of up to £250 per day without showing any paperwork or receipts!!!!. would any of us in a position where we get expenses get away with this? where I work all claims MUST be backed up by a receipt.

With one or two honourable exceptions, and I really mean one or two, most of them are part of a jolly little members club that has been accountable to no one and are in it to feather their own comfortable nests.

Time to end the whole charade, make them accountable and make them subject to instant recall if they don't do the job they are allegedly there to do, SERVING the public.
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#3 JohnM

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:49 AM

Oh no!!!! Now you've done it! You have attacked the forum's official political party AND written the name of the Antichrist

#4 gingerjon

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:52 AM

Oh no!!!! Now you've done it! You have attacked the forum's official political party AND written the name of the Antichrist


Sounds like it's going to be another 'across the house' issue.

Wouldn't be surprised to see political 'opponents' helping each other out.
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#5 Griff9of13

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 12:20 PM

Sounds like it's going to be another 'across the house' issue.

Wouldn't be surprised to see political 'opponents' helping each other out.


looks like it is a cross party issue. Telegraph. They really are a bunch of arrogant ######wits who haven't the brains to learn from previous mistakes. Fleetstreetfox sums it up pretty well.
"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

#6 Griff9of13

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 12:24 PM

Oh no!!!! Now you've done it! You have attacked the forum's official political party AND written the name of the Antichrist


Really? When did that happen? And why wasn't I told?

Until I receive official confirmation from webby I will continue to criticise and challenge ALL politicians as I see fit, no matter what colour roset they happen to sport.
"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

#7 JohnM

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:11 PM

Why would you think I was referring to you? Unless..... :)

#8 JohnM

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:22 PM

looks like it is a cross party issue. Telegraph. They really are a bunch of arrogant ######wits who haven't the brains to learn from previous mistakes. Fleetstreetfox sums it up pretty well.


They just don't get it do they. What is the answer?

#9 Futtocks

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:35 PM

Oh no!!!! Now you've done it! You have attacked the forum's official political party AND written the name of the Antichrist


Ah, if only everyone else wouldn't drag party political point-scoring into each discussion, eh? :P

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#10 Griff9of13

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:37 PM

They just don't get it do they. What is the answer?


I'd start by making them adhere to the same expenses rules the rest of us mere mortals have to work to as set out by HMRC, with almost ALL claims needing to be backed up with receipts. I would also make it a strict rule that anyone found flouting the rules would automatically lose their seat, no if buts or maybes. Gone. I would also encourage that all cases were pursued though the courts and those found guilty prosecuted for fraud where evidence exists.

Edited by Griff9of13, 22 October 2012 - 01:39 PM.

"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

#11 JohnM

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 02:17 PM

agreed. That leaves just one question: Who and how?

#12 John Drake

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 03:52 PM

Oh no!!!! Now you've done it! You have attacked the forum's official political party AND written the name of the Antichrist


TRL favours no political party (though it is full of Monster Raving Loonies) and no one's even mentioned John Inverdale in this thread yet.

Oh, I just did... :mellow:

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#13 Futtocks

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 03:55 PM

I'd start by making them adhere to the same expenses rules the rest of us mere mortals have to work to as set out by HMRC, with almost ALL claims needing to be backed up with receipts. I would also make it a strict rule that anyone found flouting the rules would automatically lose their seat, no if buts or maybes. Gone. I would also encourage that all cases were pursued though the courts and those found guilty prosecuted for fraud where evidence exists.


Of course, then we'd have to put up with the self-appointed windbags of the Taxpayers' Alliance, bitching and whining in the media about the cost of all those by-elections.

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#14 gingerjon

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 03:59 PM

Bill Cash, Andy Burnham, Don Foster, Meg Munn, Linda Riordan, Denis MacShane

They're the ones listed with details on Guido at the minute.
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#15 JohnM

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:07 PM

and now THIS Disgraceful!!!!

Edited by JohnM, 22 October 2012 - 04:07 PM.


#16 JohnM

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:08 PM

Ah, if only everyone else wouldn't drag party political point-scoring into each discussion, eh? :P


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#17 Griff9of13

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:33 PM

Why is this bloke not in jail? Suspended for 12 months? I'd suspend him from his ######!
"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

#18 JohnM

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:47 PM

not strictly an expenses scandal but this, too.

Serious Fraud Office made 'irregular' £400,000 payoff to chief executive: http://www.guardian....ayoff-irregular

and A list of hundreds of potential tax evaders who form part of the “Lagarde list” will avoid prosecution and escape from having their identities revealed as part of immunity deals with HMRC, say reports.
The Times reports only one person on a list of 6,000 tax dodgers has been convicted of serious fraud. Only 500 have been investigated on suspicion of fraud.: http://www.moneymarketing.co.uk/adviser-news/hmrc-allows-hundreds-of-tax-evaders-to-avoid-courts/1060785.article


Rochdale Council - Garner displays contempt for Parliament. Ill? Not as ill as those he betrayed.
Steve Garner, the council's former service director of targeted services, was head of children's social services between 2009 and October this year.He quit a week after the Rochdale Borough Safeguarding Children's Board (RBSCB) released its damning report into his department's failure to act to stop young girls being sexually abused. In an email to staff on October 4 he said he was leaving to 'pursue new opportunities' He added 'it was the right time to move on'. http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1592793_ex-rochdale-childrens-services-boss-too-ill-to-attend-select-committee-hearing-on-sex-grooming-scandal

Then SYPWYP Bettison quitting to escape disciplinary process.

the... Jimmy Savile

Is there no accountability any more? Is there no integrity any more? Are there no sanctions any more? :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

#19 Griff9of13

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 01:12 PM

Is there no accountability any more? Is there no integrity any more? Are there no sanctions any more? :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:


It would seem not. There seems to be an increasing element of 'them' and 'us' these days. if you are 'one of us' you seem to be able to do what you please, and if caught perhaps a half-hearted mumbled apology will be all that's needed for all your wrongdoing to be forgotten. However, woe betide you if you are 'one of them' as nicking £3.50 worth of bottled water could land you in jail for 6 months.
"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

#20 Griff9of13

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 04:48 PM

Why is this bloke not in jail? Suspended for 12 months? I'd suspend him from his ######!


Now all over Twitter that he's now resigned.

Why not sacked?

Why not prosecuted?
"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."




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