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[gingerjon]

Well Sev, I'd never have placed you for regarding casual gay anal penetration as a natural sexual appetite.

If you'd seen his Facebook page this wouldn't surprise you.

But it is entirely natural. It's the repulsion about what other consenting adults get up to that is unnatural.

[Wolford6]

If you'd seen his Facebook page this wouldn't surprise you.

But it is entirely natural. It's the repulsion about what other consenting adults get up to that is unnatural.

Well I think gay sex between men is anything but 'entirely natural', or else any man would think nothing of trying it.

I've never tried gay sex and never will. Neither has, to my knowledge, any of my longstanding friends and colleagues. Mind you, we are all knocking on a bit.

However, seeing as gay anal penetration is apparently 'entirely natural', presumably loads of our regular younger contributors will queue up to post confirmation that they regularly indulge in it.

Somehow, I think that's extremely unlikely!

[Severus]

Well I think gay sex between men is anything but 'entirely natural', or else any man would think nothing of trying it.

I've never tried gay sex and never will. Neither has, to my knowledge, any of my longstanding friends and colleagues. Mind you, we are all knocking on a bit.

However, seeing as gay anal penetration is apparently 'entirely natural', presumably loads of our regular younger contributors will queue up to post confirmation that they regularly indulge in it.

Somehow, I think that's extremely unlikely!

Now we get there, you are a homophobe.

The Rugby Football League should quite rightly be proud of its Stonewall Award and the work it has done in tackling homophobia. What do you think about it?

Edited by Severus, 06 November 2012 - 06:00 PM.

[Wolford6]

Now we get there, you are a homophobe.

What is it about this board. Everyone tries to stick labels on me.

Now apparently, I'm a homophobe.

No I'm not; I'm just not gay and will never be too timid to be anything other than politically correct. Suddenly people who think it's 'entirely natural' to have gay sex get all self-righteous because I have the temerity to laugh at their opinion.

I've worked with gay colleagues in the past and got on well with them.

Oh well, that's it for tonight.

[Severus]

What is it about this board. Everyone tries to stick labels on me.

Now apparently, I'm a homophobe.

No I'm not; I'm just not gay and will never be too timid to be anything other than politically correct. Suddenly people who think it's 'entirely natural' to have gay sex get all self-righteous because I have the temerity to laugh at their opinion.

I've worked with gay colleagues in the past and got on well with them.

Oh well, that's it for tonight.

You have said you would discriminate against a gay man because he has used a online dating site to meet other gay men. You have said that you wouldn't want a gay man having a position of care over young people. You have said that two gay man having sex is unnatural. That sounds pretty homophobic to me.

[gingerjon]

You have said you would discriminate against a gay man because he has used a online dating site to meet other gay men. You have said that you wouldn't want a gay man having a position of care over young people. You have said that two gay man having sex is unnatural. That sounds pretty homophobic to me.

Look, Sev, just because someone has said they don't like or trust men who have sex with other men, just because someone has described sex between two consenting men as unnatural, just because someone has said that they are damn sure that no one they know has ever had gay sex, just because someone believes that a man who has had gay sex should not teach young people in any situation, just because of all that, that doesn't make a person homophobic.

Though if someone had all those views you have to wonder why they can't handle the description of what that makes them.

[WearyRhino]

Begs a few question of Wolford: Do you believe that homosexuality is taught? Are gay men more likely to be paedophiles? Do your views apply to gay women too? Should young gay men and women be taught/spiritually guided by straight men and women? Are there any other sections of society who should be excluded from teaching?

[Wolford6]

If the witch-hunters care to review my contributions to this thread they will see that I have reserved my comments about the suitability of gay people to tutor young adults to a single person and people who behave in a manner similar to his own. I know it suits you to make out that i have made generic comments about all homosexuals, but I haven't.

[Severus]

If the witch-hunters care to review my contributions to this thread they will see that I have reserved my comments about the suitability of gay people to tutor young adults to a single person and people who behave in a manner similar to his own. I know it suits you to make out that i have made generic comments about all homosexuals, but I haven't.

So your beef is with someone who has posted a swear word on a dating site? So this means they are unsuitable to work with young people? You are a sensitive soul.

[gingerjon]

If the witch-hunters care to review my contributions to this thread they will see that I have reserved my comments about the suitability of gay people to tutor young adults to a single person and people who behave in a manner similar to his own. I know it suits you to make out that i have made generic comments about all homosexuals, but I haven't.

You repeatedly referred to consensual acts between two men as unnatural.

[Phil]

so would anal penetration between a consensual heterosexual couple be natural?

[Wolford6]

so would anal penetration between a consensual heterosexual couple be natural?

It wouldn't be natural for me.

Neither has any woman ever suggested to me that we do it that way.

If other people are consensual about indulging in the practice, well, what they do in private is their choice. It's certainly not a topic that would ever be discussed in my circle of friends and colleagues.

[Severus]

so would anal penetration between a consensual heterosexual couple be natural?

Why not? Is vaginal penetration the only sex act that is considered natural?

BTW it is a common misconception that for gay men, sex means anal penetration. It could mean all manner of sex acts. In the same way that some heterosexual women don't like anal sex, neither do some homosexual men.

Edited by Severus, 07 November 2012 - 12:26 PM.

[Severus]

It wouldn't be natural for me.

Neither has any woman ever suggested to me that we do it that way.

If other people are consensual about indulging in the practice, well, what they do in private is their choice. It's certainly not a topic that would ever be discussed in my circle of friends and colleagues.

Do you think it is unnatural that gay people may be attracted to members of the same sex?

[Wolford6]

Do you think it is unnatural that gay people may be attracted to members of the same sex?

I think that most gay people are born with those tendencies; most straight people aren't. The problems arise with the very small number of teenage kids who are confused about their sexuality. They could make a mistake, or be exploited and the experience could haunt and scare them for the rest of their lives.

[Severus]

I think that most gay people are born with those tendencies; most straight people aren't. The problems arise with the very small number of teenage kids who are confused about their sexuality. They could make a mistake, or be exploited and the experience could haunt and scare them for the rest of their lives.

I agree with that. Young people who are confused about their sexuality should be counselled properly and not exploited. However, I see no reason why a homosexual man cannot perform this task, I would actually go as far as saying a homosexual man may be in a better position to do this as opposed to a heterosexual person or a celibate.

[WearyRhino]

I think that most gay people are born with those tendencies; most straight people aren't. The problems arise with the very small number of teenage kids who are confused about their sexuality. They could make a mistake, or be exploited and the experience could haunt and scare them for the rest of their lives.

No - ALL gay people are born with those tendencies. It cannot taught.

Anything other than consensual sex is rape no matter what the gender or sexuality of those concerned.

[gingerjon]

I think that most gay people are born with those tendencies; most straight people aren't. The problems arise with the very small number of teenage kids who are confused about their sexuality. They could make a mistake, or be exploited and the experience could haunt and scare them for the rest of their lives.

So a straight person could exploit a homosexual teen leaving them haunted and scared?

[Wolford6]

So a straight person could exploit a homosexual teen leaving them haunted and scared?

Yes.

Anyway, I'm fed up of talking about this topic. You are dragging it out with successive questions just like l'Angelo does. You are unprepared to say what you believe, just pick holes in what I believe. I find it pathetic.

You know where I stand and I'll leave it at that.

Edited by Wolford6, 07 November 2012 - 01:36 PM.

[gingerjon]

You know where I stand and I'll leave it at that.

Against the wall with a terrified look on your face?