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[Wolford6]

If you go for a curry in Bradford, you are going to get Halal meat. You pay your money, take your choice and live with any conscience that you might have about it.

The main "beef" about halal meat in Bradford is that some schools allegedly serve only Halal meat in their dinners. This would unnecessarily increase the number of animals that are ritually slaughtered in preference to using more humane (in the legal sense) methods.

True to "form", the council Education Dept's publicity is determinedly vague about the issue ... it states which schools serve Halal meat and which don't. It doesn't confirm whether children or, more importantly, their parents have a choice in what meat they eat.

http://www.bradford....alProvision.pdf


My granddaughter goes to Wibsey Junior School which, like one in Clayton where I live, has a minority of Moslem children. However, both serve Halal meat. I'm not sure whether any humanely-slaughtered meat is offered on an alternative menu. I will ask her.

Clayton also has Church of England and Catholic state primary schools. Both have a similar minority of Moslem children on the roster.
The St Anthony's Catholic school is stated not to serve Halal meat while the Council states that it has "no information available" about the C of E school. There is no way that it does not establish this for certain and so, one can safely assume that it doesn't wish the issue to be publicised amongst those parents in the local community who deliberately send their children to a faith-based school.
The cynic in me says that the council is only being coy about the issue because:-
- either there is no alternative to Halal meat on the menu.
or
- the meat on the menu is non-Halal, but it wishes to encourage more integrated education in its faith schools.

[Gav Wilson]

Well, this is certainly some of the stranger thread drift I have encountered.

[John Rhino]

Some people have a reasonable objection to Halal slaughter methods.

It's not moaning.

It would be in this thread. There's the "other sports and topics" for that.

Fortunately you didn't do it. but others will.

[jannerboyuk]

Its funny how the most unlikely characters are sudden convinced animal right true believers. Cant work out why but i'm sure their eggs are free range and their yoghurt is knitted to the highest standards. the sincerity oozes out from their pores.

[Wolford6]

Its funny how the most unlikely characters are sudden convinced animal right true believers. Cant work out why but i'm sure their eggs are free range and their yoghurt is knitted to the highest standards. the sincerity oozes out from their pores.

If you're referring to me, I'm a declared hypocrite on the issue.

(1) I love Bradford curries and go regularly to Moslem curry houses. At the same time, I would prefer that all animals are stunned before slaughter. If all people who think like me were completely opposed to the Halal or Kosher slaughter method we would boycott curries and/or turn vegetarian.
(2) As a kid, my Dad kept battery hens in cages. Then, as a student, I worked in a research lab that did animal testing. In both cases, as a result of the passing years and dissociation from those practices, I'm far more concerned now about the animals' welfare than I was at the time.

[Mumby Magic]

To turn the thread back on track. A dead animal to eat is a dead animal to eat. Is there really a nice way to kill one?

[keighley]

To turn the thread back on track. A dead animal to eat is a dead animal to eat. Is there really a nice way to kill one?

If it's a cougar, you just deny it sustenance and it drops dead from starvation.

[1976PMJwires]

A positive thread, some good news for the bulls and it gets ####### up by how we kill animals.

[John Rhino]

A positive thread, some good news for the bulls and it gets ####### up by how we kill animals.

As predicted! :-)

[jannerboyuk]

If you're referring to me, I'm a declared hypocrite on the issue.

(1) I love Bradford curries and go regularly to Moslem curry houses. At the same time, I would prefer that all animals are stunned before slaughter. If all people who think like me were completely opposed to the Halal or Kosher slaughter method we would boycott curries and/or turn vegetarian.
(2) As a kid, my Dad kept battery hens in cages. Then, as a student, I worked in a research lab that did animal testing. In both cases, as a result of the passing years and dissociation from those practices, I'm far more concerned now about the animals' welfare than I was at the time.

i don't doubt your sincerity for a moment and i wasn't having a go on anyone on this forum, full of lovely people that it is, i was making a wry comment about the sudden explosion in concern for animal welfare amongst certain types. colour me cynical

[slowdive]

Goods news about the sponsorship and I hope Bradford fans support those businesses which have sponsored their club so it becomes mutually beneficial and self sustaining.
Having an Asian owner and increased support from the Asian community, I hope the club make the most of this and start to target that community for players and spectators.
We talk about expansion, rightly, but some clubs like Bradford have room to expand within their own city!
Im sure there has been initiatives in the past, but the club needs to do it properly and for the long term. It can be done I'm sure, but you need the right people to do it.
Just imagine the positive publicity the club and the game would get if clubs like Bradford et al were able to really boast a supporter base which genuinely reflected the community.