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When did PNG last play a full test match?


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#1 gingerjon

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:47 AM

Anyone know?
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:04 PM

they played a 2 test series with fiji in 2011 iiirc


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1st test fiji won 26-12
2nd test png won 26-0

Edited by roughyedspud, 06 November 2012 - 12:10 PM.

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#3 Futtocks

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:07 PM

And, although not a full test, they played an Australian Select XIII earlier this year.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:12 PM

they played a 2 test series with fiji in 2011 iiirc


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1st test fiji won 26-12
2nd test png won 26-0


Cheers.

Anything this year?


And, although not a full test, they played an Australian Select XIII earlier this year.


I knew about that. Not a test match, sadly.
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#5 roughyedspud

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:15 PM

nope......

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#6 Dave T

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:32 PM

The way PNG, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga and Cook Islands are treated is the worst thing in World Rugby League.

These 5 teams could change the landscape of International RL if they bothered to put any effort in, they being the International board.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:37 PM

they being the ARLC you mean

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:05 PM

They play Australia, masquerading as the prime ministers X111, just in case they get beat, every year. This year they lost by about 5 points to a last minute try. The ground in Port Moresby was bursting at the seams.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 04:00 PM

The game in PNG has been riven with internal politics for years. A recent court case seems to have put a lid on it and, with it being the most popular sport and holding so much promise for that country, the government is taking a very close interest in the PNGRFL. There's also talk of a new national stadium being built, and a big one at that.

The problem in the pacific is that none of the island nations have the money or wherewithal to really push things forwards by themselves, they need someone to direct it. And that's where the Aussies should be concentrating their development push, but they don't because ultimately they don't give a monkey's about anyone else. Their entire focus is on the NRL and Origin. They do pay for a development officer in Fiji but he was actively encouraging Akuila Uate to switch to the Aussies on the basis that it was good for RL for Fijians to see one of their own playing at that level.

New Zealand meanwhile, being a client of the Aussies in that most of their funding comes from the annual ANZAC game, don't have the resources or desire to go against them. That's why the Asia Pacific RL, set up a year or two back, has done absolutely nothing.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 04:37 PM

The game in PNG has been riven with internal politics for years. A recent court case seems to have put a lid on it and, with it being the most popular sport and holding so much promise for that country, the government is taking a very close interest in the PNGRFL. There's also talk of a new national stadium being built, and a big one at that.

The problem in the pacific is that none of the island nations have the money or wherewithal to really push things forwards by themselves, they need someone to direct it. And that's where the Aussies should be concentrating their development push, but they don't because ultimately they don't give a monkey's about anyone else. Their entire focus is on the NRL and Origin. They do pay for a development officer in Fiji but he was actively encouraging Akuila Uate to switch to the Aussies on the basis that it was good for RL for Fijians to see one of their own playing at that level.

New Zealand meanwhile, being a client of the Aussies in that most of their funding comes from the annual ANZAC game, don't have the resources or desire to go against them. That's why the Asia Pacific RL, set up a year or two back, has done absolutely nothing.


To play devils advocate for a minute, why should the ARLC spend any of the money they receive for the NRL on the game in the Pacific? Channel 9 are paying them $1bn for the 16 NRL clubs and the Origin series, not to prop up the sport in Fiji or wherever. Does large parts of the Sky money the RFL receive go into developing the game across Europe?

The Asia Pacific federation can't do anything because it has no money. The RLEF has been very good at sourcing European grants to aid development, but I'm sure they could do a whole lot more if the RFL gave them a chunk of the Sky money every year.

The problem is that although we have a world governing body, it doesnt actually run the game. The NRL and the RFL do. Although you could argue that ulitmately the professional clubs here and in the NRL actually hold the real power. Until the RLIF start to get some sort of regular income stream other than a World Cup every 4 years or so, little is going to change. It's the RLIF that should be funding the game worldwide. Income from the World Cup is used for funding development, but it's nowhere near enough. Until they actually start setting up their own TV deals, sponsorship deals etc., the money that comes into the sport will largely go where it always has done - to the clubs.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:14 PM

They play Australia, masquerading as the prime ministers X111, just in case they get beat, every year. This year they lost by about 5 points to a last minute try. The ground in Port Moresby was bursting at the seams.


That post is laughable.
Look into the game, get the facts, think about it.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:20 PM

The game in PNG has been riven with internal politics for years. A recent court case seems to have put a lid on it and, with it being the most popular sport and holding so much promise for that country, the government is taking a very close interest in the PNGRFL. There's also talk of a new national stadium being built, and a big one at that.

The problem in the pacific is that none of the island nations have the money or wherewithal to really push things forwards by themselves, they need someone to direct it. And that's where the Aussies should be concentrating their development push, but they don't because ultimately they don't give a monkey's about anyone else. Their entire focus is on the NRL and Origin. They do pay for a development officer in Fiji but he was actively encouraging Akuila Uate to switch to the Aussies on the basis that it was good for RL for Fijians to see one of their own playing at that level.

New Zealand meanwhile, being a client of the Aussies in that most of their funding comes from the annual ANZAC game, don't have the resources or desire to go against them. That's why the Asia Pacific RL, set up a year or two back, has done absolutely nothing.


I guess when there is more knowledge about these "Pacific Islands" we will understand what the reality is.

They would be right up there as the most undeveloped countries in the World.

Edited by AndyCapp, 06 November 2012 - 09:25 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:34 AM

They would be right up there as the most undeveloped countries in the World.


Are they more or less developed than NSW was in 1908?

Exactly how developed does a country have to be before it's allowed to play full test matches.

I ask because if you go onto the Rugby League Project page you can see PNG playing regular full tests against France, GB, NZ and Australia right up to the SL war. And, since then, far, far fewer full test matches.

Is PNG less developed now than it was in 1990?
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:44 AM

To play devils advocate for a minute, why should the ARLC spend any of the money they receive for the NRL on the game in the Pacific? Channel 9 are paying them $1bn for the 16 NRL clubs and the Origin series, not to prop up the sport in Fiji or wherever. Does large parts of the Sky money the RFL receive go into developing the game across Europe?

The Asia Pacific federation can't do anything because it has no money. The RLEF has been very good at sourcing European grants to aid development, but I'm sure they could do a whole lot more if the RFL gave them a chunk of the Sky money every year.


iirc last year was the first year since the RLEF was started in 2003 that the RFL did'nt actually give the RLEF some funding.....because the RLEF did'nt need it cos as you've pointed out the RLEF has been sourcing money elsewhere.....trust me the RFL had bankrolled the RLEF upto then.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:54 AM

Are they more or less developed than NSW was in 1908?

Exactly how developed does a country have to be before it's allowed to play full test matches.

I ask because if you go onto the Rugby League Project page you can see PNG playing regular full tests against France, GB, NZ and Australia right up to the SL war. And, since then, far, far fewer full test matches.

Is PNG less developed now than it was in 1990?


YES

#16 gingerjon

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:04 AM

YES


Thanks, very helpful.
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:32 AM

I think AndyCapp has just been unmasked. He is Colin Love.
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:48 AM

I think AndyCapp has just been unmasked. He is Colin Love.


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#19 boxhead

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:50 AM

Thanks, very helpful.


Well they were locked out of Tests in many ways with the Tri Nations and Four Nations series so their ability to get a Test match in a cramped Rugby League season is limited.
They do not have the funds to travel to other countries to tour, PNG is barely safe enough for visiting Nations to play them at home.
Since Independence from Australia in 1975 the country has been a basket case with crime and lawlessness throughout Moresby, there is barely any road network linking the various towns it is mainly done by sea.
Outside of a few cities/towns it is a Village culture that has barely moved forward from the stone age.

Other than the Australian prime ministers team who are they going to play? most teams do not want to go to Moresby, the fans have no money to buy tickets, there is limited media in PNG.
Look at the crowds PNG attracted when they did tour say NZ back in the day, you would get more to a Schoolgame, how do you finance that?

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:53 AM

I think AndyCapp has just been unmasked. He is Colin Love.


Maybe the RFL could have financed them to tour England? or perhaps rather than play France and Wales, England or the Knights could have toured the Pacific Islands?
Now there is an idea that would work.

Edited by AndyCapp, 07 November 2012 - 10:58 AM.





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