@&#$ing cyclists version 2
#1
Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:51 AM
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:10 AM
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#3
Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:26 AM
#4
Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:07 AM
the road configuration has changed several times over the years
A lot of people miss the point that very often cyclists are not blaming motorists for driving like cretinous loons rather than pointing out that it's often how the roads have been put together that is the (easily solvable) problem.
- Severus, July 2012
#5
Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:45 PM
#6
Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:54 PM
I believe Shane Sutton, GB cycling coach, is also seriously ill in hospital after a similar incident this morning. It seems Shane has come out of it with much more serious head injuries.
Just reported on Radio 5 - best of luck to the both of them.
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#7
Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:55 PM
Still, Saintslass and Gary Coyle can be on in a minute to say why they deserve to be hit.
(EDIT: 6 in the last 2 weeks)
Edited by gingerjon, 08 November 2012 - 01:59 PM.
- Severus, July 2012
#8
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:01 PM
#9
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:04 PM
Sitting at a busy road junction in a town centre last night at 6.30pm on a red light. In the space of those few seconds, FIVE cyclists went over the junction on red. Four went 'slowly and carefully' but the other didn't even slow down and went straight through causing several cars to brake/swerve.
You have to ask yourself why in those situations it may be safer to go through on red than wait for the light to turn green.
But, playing that game, I went for a walk at lunchtime and as is my want I crossed Marylebone Road. Number of cars going through red lights: 9; Number of bikes: 2.
- Severus, July 2012
#10
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:10 PM
This is in addition to the six cyclists (I believe that figure is correct) killed this week.
Still, Saintslass and Gary Coyle can be on in a minute to say why they deserve to be hit.
(EDIT: 6 in the last 2 weeks)
Sadly it justifies the reason I now rarely cycle on main roads. Which is a shame because I really do enjoy it.
#11
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:10 PM
You have to ask yourself why in those situations it may be safer to go through on red than wait for the light to turn green.
I cycled for many years in London, and that argument of being safer to run the light than to wait 'til it's your turn has never seemed reasonable at any time or in any situation, unless you're being pursued by the Russian Mafia.
"Perhaps it would be better that future criticism of sports be made on the narrow basis of what is being discussed, without reference to other sports, unless those sports offer a solution to the problem in hand." - Brian 'Pigface' Moore
"What happens in rugby union? A player takes the ball, moves forward a little and gets tackled. A whole load of players then roll about on the ground. Pheep! The referee gives a penalty." - Simon Barnes
#12
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:11 PM
Could it be that they don't give a fig for other road users?You have to ask yourself why in those situations it may be safer to go through on red than wait for the light to turn green.
But, playing that game, I went for a walk at lunchtime and as is my want I crossed Marylebone Road. Number of cars going through red lights: 9; Number of bikes: 2.
#13
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:13 PM
But, playing that game, I went for a walk at lunchtime and as is my want I crossed Marylebone Road. Number of cars going through red lights: 9; Number of bikes: 2.
Proof, if it was actually required, that irrespective of their mode of transport, a certain percentage of road users are a danger to themselves and others.
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#14
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:15 PM
Could it be that they don't give a fig for other road users?
Like motorists there are good and bad cyclists. I see a lot more good than bad. I expect most people notice more bad than good.
If I'd included amber I wouldn't have been able to keep count of the cars. The only time I've seen a study done (it was on Trafalgar Square if I recall correctly) they found the same: more cars/motor vehicles going through on red than bikes. When I cycled in the London - I can walk to work now - there were 2 junctions in particular where a few cyclists would advance on red (I personally did not) as it increased their visibility and put them in a safer position on the road.
- Severus, July 2012
#15
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:16 PM
Proof, if it was actually required, that irrespective of their mode of transport, a certain percentage of road users are a danger to themselves and others.
I make that point in my reply.
I'm not anti motorist, I am a motorist. I'm anti-dickheads and poor road design.
- Severus, July 2012
#16
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:20 PM
I make that point in my reply.
I'm not anti motorist, I am a motorist. I'm anti-dickheads and poor road design.
It wasn't meant as a dig at you.
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#17
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:22 PM
There is that. If you are at a traffic light you do tend to notice if a cyclist pulls alongside and then goes through on red, whereas most cars don't pull out and go through on red once they have stopped at lights.I expect most people notice more bad than good
#18
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:29 PM
I really hope that's not the case and it's not as serious as first feared.I believe Shane Sutton, GB cycling coach, is also seriously ill in hospital after a similar incident this morning. It seems Shane has come out of it with much more serious head injuries.
#19
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:35 PM
I really hope that's not the case and it's not as serious as first feared.
Guardian is reporting 'bleeding on the brain'.
- Severus, July 2012
#20
Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:49 PM
Oh dear, that doesn't sound good.Guardian is reporting 'bleeding on the brain'.
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