Nationally, reported turnout is running at under 15%.
Police Commissioner elections
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, Nov 08 2012 09:39 AM
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:20 PM
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:40 PM
Nationally, reported turnout is running at under 15%.
A fact the Tories may find themselves reminded of the next time they question the validity of union action when it is called on a low(ish) ballot turnout.
"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:45 PM
"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:47 PM
A fact the Tories may find themselves reminded of the next time they question the validity of union action when it is called on a low(ish) ballot turnout.
Labour have a new MP on a 19% turnout.
Cheer up, RL is actually rather good
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:49 PM
And a Ukip MEP has decided to go on the attack ...
(via the Guardian, an open letter sent to Theresa May)
(via the Guardian, an open letter sent to Theresa May)
With reference to the dismally low turn out for the elections for Police and Crime Commissioners in England and Wales, I have grave concerns about the legitimacy of the results and the democratic validity of your post and call upon you to resign your portfolio with immediate effect.
I believe you and your department at best may be charged with utterly and hopelessly failing the general public over these elections, and at worst may stand accused of gerrymandering.
I fear the Home Office anticipated, if not engineered, the appallingly low turn out and wilfully permitted the elections to continue in full knowledge that the majority of the general public were not engaged with.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:48 PM
And a Ukip MEP has decided to go on the attack ...
(via the Guardian, an open letter sent to Theresa May)
87000 people out of 2.25 million got him his seat in the gravy train he so opposes.
North Derbyshire Chargers - join the stampede
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:56 PM
Boothby Graffoe tweets: "Have you recently called the police and found yourself speaking to a journalist? You may have been mis-sold PCC."
"Journalists are meant to be neutral, for God's sake." - Stephen 'Wiggy' Jones
"Perhaps it would be better that future criticism of sports be made on the narrow basis of what is being discussed, without reference to other sports, unless those sports offer a solution to the problem in hand." - Brian 'Pigface' Moore
"What happens in rugby union? A player takes the ball, moves forward a little and gets tackled. A whole load of players then roll about on the ground. Pheep! The referee gives a penalty." - Simon Barnes
"Perhaps it would be better that future criticism of sports be made on the narrow basis of what is being discussed, without reference to other sports, unless those sports offer a solution to the problem in hand." - Brian 'Pigface' Moore
"What happens in rugby union? A player takes the ball, moves forward a little and gets tackled. A whole load of players then roll about on the ground. Pheep! The referee gives a penalty." - Simon Barnes
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:00 PM
"Journalists are meant to be neutral, for God's sake." - Stephen 'Wiggy' Jones
"Perhaps it would be better that future criticism of sports be made on the narrow basis of what is being discussed, without reference to other sports, unless those sports offer a solution to the problem in hand." - Brian 'Pigface' Moore
"What happens in rugby union? A player takes the ball, moves forward a little and gets tackled. A whole load of players then roll about on the ground. Pheep! The referee gives a penalty." - Simon Barnes
"Perhaps it would be better that future criticism of sports be made on the narrow basis of what is being discussed, without reference to other sports, unless those sports offer a solution to the problem in hand." - Brian 'Pigface' Moore
"What happens in rugby union? A player takes the ball, moves forward a little and gets tackled. A whole load of players then roll about on the ground. Pheep! The referee gives a penalty." - Simon Barnes
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:13 PM
Nationally, reported turnout is running at under 15%.
Woohoo! At 16% Wiltshire beats the national average. Makes me so proud!
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:20 PM
I still have no idea who the candidates were.
Then wisdom says: cherish your days, worry only lets your time slip away
Push away the thief trying to steal your gift, the fighter is the one whose feet are swift.
Push away the thief trying to steal your gift, the fighter is the one whose feet are swift.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:43 PM
"Stop politicising the police" 
Clearly ignorant of the make up and operation of the previous Police Authorities stuffed to the gills with party political members councillors etc
Clearly ignorant of the make up and operation of the previous Police Authorities stuffed to the gills with party political members councillors etc
Edited by JohnM, 16 November 2012 - 02:46 PM.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:44 PM
"Stop politicising the police"
Clearly ignorant of the make up and operation of the previous Police Authorities stuffed to the gills with part political members.
Quite - much better just to draw a penis on the ballot paper.
"Journalists are meant to be neutral, for God's sake." - Stephen 'Wiggy' Jones
"Perhaps it would be better that future criticism of sports be made on the narrow basis of what is being discussed, without reference to other sports, unless those sports offer a solution to the problem in hand." - Brian 'Pigface' Moore
"What happens in rugby union? A player takes the ball, moves forward a little and gets tackled. A whole load of players then roll about on the ground. Pheep! The referee gives a penalty." - Simon Barnes
"Perhaps it would be better that future criticism of sports be made on the narrow basis of what is being discussed, without reference to other sports, unless those sports offer a solution to the problem in hand." - Brian 'Pigface' Moore
"What happens in rugby union? A player takes the ball, moves forward a little and gets tackled. A whole load of players then roll about on the ground. Pheep! The referee gives a penalty." - Simon Barnes
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:45 PM
Ha, my constituency is WAYYYY below that with a 12.4% turnout!Woohoo! At 16% Wiltshire beats the national average. Makes me so proud!
Labour PCC elected in Merseyside.
"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:08 PM
87000 people out of 2.25 million got him his seat in the gravy train he so opposes.
Are you accusing a politician of hypocrisy?
Careful, that could cost you £185,000.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:15 PM
Ukip outpolling the Lib Dems; British Freedom Party outpolling the Greens.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:41 PM
Ukip outpolling the Lib Dems; British Freedom Party outpolling the Greens.
The hate parties may be revolting, but they are committed.
"Journalists are meant to be neutral, for God's sake." - Stephen 'Wiggy' Jones
"Perhaps it would be better that future criticism of sports be made on the narrow basis of what is being discussed, without reference to other sports, unless those sports offer a solution to the problem in hand." - Brian 'Pigface' Moore
"What happens in rugby union? A player takes the ball, moves forward a little and gets tackled. A whole load of players then roll about on the ground. Pheep! The referee gives a penalty." - Simon Barnes
"Perhaps it would be better that future criticism of sports be made on the narrow basis of what is being discussed, without reference to other sports, unless those sports offer a solution to the problem in hand." - Brian 'Pigface' Moore
"What happens in rugby union? A player takes the ball, moves forward a little and gets tackled. A whole load of players then roll about on the ground. Pheep! The referee gives a penalty." - Simon Barnes
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:38 PM
We are told there is going to be a "thorough" review to establish what went wrong so far as the poor response from the public! 
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:39 PM
Are you accusing a politician of hypocrisy?
Careful, that could cost you £185,000.
What cost you and I the licence payer £185,000 was Newsnight's gleeful, deliberate and calculated character assassination of a perfectly innocent person. Still, if that is what you want from your BBC..
Anyway, this just in. Parliamentary elections are undemocratic rubbish. Manchester Central Parliamentary by-election: The turnout of just over 18% is believed to be the lowest in a by-election since World War II.
Edited by JohnM, 16 November 2012 - 06:40 PM.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:45 PM
Anyway, this just in. Parliamentary elections are undemocratic rubbish. Manchester Central Parliamentary by-election: The turnout of just over 18% is believed to be the lowest in a by-election since World War II.
A symptom of the regard in which politicians and politics are held by the public at the moment perhaps?
"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:07 PM
Spot on!! They are down there with Estate Agents, bankers and lawyers ror Parliamentary elections, local elections and PCC elections all.
The encouraging thing in the number of Independents who have won PCC elections. Nine so far. That should shake up the previously cosy relationship between the police and the part politically dominated Police Authorities.
The encouraging thing in the number of Independents who have won PCC elections. Nine so far. That should shake up the previously cosy relationship between the police and the part politically dominated Police Authorities.
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