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#21 RSN

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:42 PM

Why would titans fans watch an essentially european side? I'd imagine the crowds would decrease. They're also in huge debt, I'm not sure if its quite 25m although ill happily be corrected.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:48 PM

I chose the Titans as they seem to be up s creek. Any other team would do. As for why would Titans fans watch a foreign team - doesnt stop an awful lot of Premier League fans doing similar - plus I guess ticket revenue would come behind tv revenue anyway. Plus over 1M of the population of Australia was born in the UK, with plenty more with British parents - maybe a few thousand of them would turn up to offset any pommyhaters who decided to stop going.

edit - another idea would be to buy a stake in a nrl club but not take it over outright. Say, buy Crowe's stake in South Sydney - you wouldnt have a full English side (and wouldnt lose any home fans), it'd be a watered down version of 'Plan A' but would still work towards the same aims of improving the international side and keeping hold of better players.

Edited by Rascal Bongo Stork, 19 November 2012 - 04:58 PM.


#23 Railway End

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:32 PM

Seems Leeds are now after signing Willie Tonga from Parramatta.

This guy won't come cheap and whilst he is undoubtedly a good player (when fit) I'd still rather see SL clubs put more investment into junior development rather than leading the charge to get rid of the 15's and 20's.

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#24 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:41 PM

Seems Leeds are now after signing Willie Tonga from Parramatta.

This guy won't come cheap and whilst he is undoubtedly a good player (when fit) I'd still rather see SL clubs put more investment into junior development rather than leading the charge to get rid of the 15's and 20's.

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#25 boxhead

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:23 PM

The Titans are not in that much debt.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:21 AM

sorry i put a £ instead of $

http://www.sportal.c...-licence-208757

Having seen debts blow out to $24 million under the leadership of former Titans chief executive officer Michael Searle, who will continue as executive director of football, the ARLC have agreed to hand the club a fresh start by issuing a licence under new ownership.


earlier in the last season it was reported to be as much as $35million

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#27 weloveyouwakefield2

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:38 AM

If I have understood correctly, he's looking for a centre to replace Ablett but says Ablett has been playing brilliantly in the centres and it would require a top drawer NRL player to replace Ablett. In other words, recruiting a centre isn't really a priority so this is a non-story?

Other than getting in cover for Ablett should he get injured, can't he just keep Ablett in the centre and maybe look for another prop or second rower, positions I understand Leeds to be in greater need of covering?

If it's really that bad, and they need to spend more, surely he needs to get Gary H a longer pair of arms that reach all that loose coin in the bottom of his pockets. I'm sure there's plenty in there to spend.


Anyhow, Darren Lockyer seems to think it a good thing the journeymen are no longer coming over from the NRL as he thinks there is plenty of talent coming thru over here, it just needs game time at the top level.

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#28 boxhead

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:12 AM

sorry i put a £ instead of $

http://www.sportal.c...-licence-208757



earlier in the last season it was reported to be as much as $35million


The Titans sold the biggest debt they had in the building "Centre for Excellence" and the Bank financing that took a big hit.
They have had a new consortium but a shareholding in the Club and absorb some of the previous debt.
They are still in debt but nothing like $35 million.

Edited by AndyCapp, 20 November 2012 - 07:15 AM.


#29 Saint Toppy

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:25 AM

The RFL buying a stake in an NRL club isn't as stupid an idea as it sounds if they are serious about the international game going forward. However instead of using an existing club they should take a long term view and partner with one of the new ventures who are pushing for an NRL licence in the future such as Perth.
A brand new franchise wont alienate existing fans by having half the squad made up of British players. Imagine having a 25 man squad with 14 Brits playing in the NRL competition every week with every SL club being allowed to send 1 player from their own squad to play for the franchise for a minimum of 2 years

#30 Blind side johnny

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:37 PM

And all this comes at a time when the RFL overhaul the scholarship and Academy system, effectively limiting the chances of developing young players in our own competition.

Bearing in mind, all the changes have been approved by SL clubs.

Great timing.


Not approved, but instigated, with Leeds at the head of the queue.

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