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Rebranding, merging and relocations....the eternal sin? Why not Salford City Reds to Manchester Reds?


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#41 Cake Tiger

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:35 AM

Salford is in Manchester like Leeds is in Bradford.

Buy a map.


Google it instead - it's cheaper. :)

#42 JohnM

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:24 AM

That's all very well but could we perhaps think of succesful examples in 21st century England (or at least 90s England)?

MK Dons are they that much of a success?

The old Dons played in the Premier League. AFC Wimbledon are only one division below them.


No one ever went to watch the old Wimbledon

#43 Northern Sol

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:08 PM

No one ever went to watch the old Wimbledon


Not true.

#44 JohnM

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:21 PM

Not true.




... by the club's appearance in the top flight nine years later the average attendance had risen to 7,811.
Attendances did not immediately change much following the move to Selhurst Park .
Average crowds peaked at 18,235 in 1998–99, and during the next season, the team's final year in the FA Premier League, home crowds averaged 17,157.
With relegation, attendances dropped catastrophically to an average of only 7,897 during 2000–01.
Wimbledon averaged 6,961 during the final season before the club's relocation to Milton Keynes was confirmed.

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#45 Northern Sol

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:45 PM

So if they had been playing rugby league then they would have been one of the best supported sides in SL then?

Even in their "catastrophic season", they were ahead of many SL teams.

Hardly "nobody watched them".

How many people watch MK Dons? They must be packing them in surely?

#46 Northern Sol

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:51 PM

MK Dons crowds:

2004-5: 4,896
2005-6: 5,619
2006-7: 6,033
2007-8: 9,456
2008-9: 10,550
2009-10: 10,290
2010-11: 8,512
2011-12: 8,794

#47 slowdive

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 05:11 PM

Saldham City sounds a bit like something out of a Batman film. Something to work with?
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#48 Doghead

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:28 PM

Salford's Take over by the Council and Peel Holdings moves a step nearer today when the deal goes before the Council.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:36 PM

Salford's Take over by the Council and Peel Holdings moves a step nearer today when the deal goes before the Council.

It was never a takeover. It was a £750,000 loan from the Council, which today the Council have rejected.

I'd say it's looking like administration for Salford.

#50 RS

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:36 PM

From another messageboard -

Just saw this on twitter from Radio Manchester, retweeted by Phil Kinsella

"Councillors have rejected a rescue plan for Salford City Reds. They refused to agree a £750,000 lifeline because of the risk."

So thats half of the £1.5M loan gone, looks like it could be goodbye Salford.

#51 chibimatty

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:56 AM

Have they always been nicknamed the Reds?

I always thought they may have gone as : Salford FC - The Dockers

This logo is a very bad photoshop rip-off of the Fremantle Dockers old logo, but the idea remains; a docker with the sculpture from the Salford docks:

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Edited by chibimatty, 12 December 2012 - 06:05 AM.


#52 Celtic Rooster

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:08 AM

Its nothing to do with Salford RLFC and I don't think its anything to do with Salford City FC either and I have lived in Salford/Eccles all my life. Never seen this before.

#53 chibimatty

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:43 AM

Yeah, I know it's just an idea I'm throwing out there. I thought it may be interesting to have the docks or an anchor in the clubs identity.

I saw these on the net and thought it may be worth a look:

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#54 Mumby Magic

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:42 PM

Rebranding is to try and expand on what they have and stretch to new audiences if possible. Rugby League generally to Manchester is like gaelic football to Bradfordians, they don't really go together. To change the first name, the town name of the club is a big risk. With Salford they have a brand recognised for decades and would be taking a big risk and could possiblyalienate existing fans too. Alternatively the better way to rebrand would be via the moniker of the club/logo/nickname, the City Reds. That is for another discussion. However I think the club will are occupied with other things at the moment............

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#55 Red Willow

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:55 PM

Salford have been the Red Devils since the 30s. Given the name by the French.

Why brand them as Dockers when the docks haven't existed since the 70s. How will this improve the image or crowds?

This industrial heritage means little to the council or many residents. Look at the blue cranes about to be scrapped.

Maybe they should play as Media City Blues.

#56 chibimatty

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:27 PM

Why brand them as Dockers when the docks haven't existed since the 70s. How will this improve the image or crowds?


I don't actually know, that's why I put forward the question. It's more to do with the fact that there is/was an industrial heritage in the city, if it's irrelevant now, then fair enough, I have my answer. B)

Edited by chibimatty, 12 December 2012 - 05:28 PM.





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