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#1181 GeordieSaint

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 08:27 AM

So now, we are really in the home straight.

 

When will they get things like the merchandising sorted?

 

The organisers have done a lot of great stuff with this tournament, and I am as excited as anything about it, but why do we always have to accept a 2nd rate experience on even some of the most basic things?

 

Has the merchandise operation been outsourced as per the tickets etc? I remember reading that Sally Bolton's team is just 12-strong. If this includes merchandising, there aren't enough people.

 

I completely agree with your last sentence. Nothing is ever seamless with our game and it usually the basic things we get wrong...


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 09:27 AM

I was hoping they were going to be selling the England shirts at the event they held in Trafalgar Square the day before the Chellenge Cup Final but there was nothing to buy. With 10,000 people seeing the cup I'm sure they could have sold a bit aswell, unless of course they weren'y allowed to.


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#1183 Dave T

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 09:29 AM

Has the merchandise operation been outsourced as per the tickets etc? I remember reading that Sally Bolton's team is just 12-strong. If this includes merchandising, there aren't enough people.

 

I completely agree with your last sentence. Nothing is ever seamless with our game and it usually the basic things we get wrong...

I was thinking more about this and I suspect that as everybody has their own deals, the RLWC site will probably not sell the shirts as the RLWC will not get their split, so they are trying to sell the generic t-shirts and vests.

 

As has already been mentioned, the merchandise and souvenirs that were available for the 2008 WC were brilliant, the shops at the grounds were fully stocked in all sorts - I remember getting a full range of scarves, looks like I will get to use them for this world cup!

 

Since the shop was launched in around April, the Mascot section has had a Coming Soon message. Well, the tournament is almost here and nothing yet.

 

I also think it is actually pretty poor that the England shirt hasn't been launched yet. The England shop is dire, with almost everything sold out, but not signposted so you have to test every product to see what is in stock. In this day and age, this really isn't good enough.

 

It really does feel like we are supporting a backward sport at times when it comes to basics.



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Posted 09 September 2013 - 09:45 AM

Was the merchandise available in Oz better than the online store?  I remember just being presented with a range of garish baseball caps and the like all following a set template of TON, SAM, ENG for the branding.


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#1185 Dave T

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:19 AM

Was the merchandise available in Oz better than the online store?  I remember just being presented with a range of garish baseball caps and the like all following a set template of TON, SAM, ENG for the branding.

It was more the range of stuff - keyrings, scarves, t-shirts, bottle holders, stationary etc. - so maybe we will see more things closer to the time. I think it was also the fact that you could go into general sports shops over there and get nations shirts and the like, but unfortunately we aren't in a position to do that I suppose.

 

When you look at the merchandise for this World Cup, there is actually some quite nice stuff, once you go to links that work! Some quite nice t-shirts, but it is more the basic issues:

 

Under the Adults section:

Hoodies - only Tournament, Australia, NZ and England.

Polos - page is blank

Shorts - England, Australia and NZ - are shorts that in-demand?

Vests - quite nice if you like that sort of thing - not sure they will be in massive demand in November. Why only 11 of the 14 nations?

T-shirts - quite nice - only 11 nations again, why no USA, Italy or Cook Islands?

Print T-Shirts - these are decent and have all 14 nations.

 

Scarves - quite nice, if pricey, but why only 12 nations?

Beanies - just the three big nations.

Pin Badges and Keyrings - very nice range.

 

So they have done some rally nice things, but when you ignore some nations altogether, and don't even include Wales in some of the ranges then you look cheap.



#1186 flyingking

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:42 AM

Australia have announced their train on squad to go to PNG, further players will be added as teams get eliminated from the NRL play-offs

 

The Holden Kangaroos / Prime Minister’s XIII train-on squad is:

Matt Gillett - Brisbane Broncos

Corey Parker - Brisbane Broncos

Ben Hannant - Brisbane Broncos

Sam Thaiday - Brisbane Broncos

Brett Morris - St George Illawarra Dragons

Jarryd Hayne - Parramatta Eels

David Shillington - Canberra Raiders

Josh Papalii - Canberra Raiders

Jarrod Croker - Canberra Raiders

Josh McCrone - Canberra Raiders

Robbie Farah - Wests Tigers

David Taylor - Gold Coast Titans

Ryan James - Gold Coast Titans

Kevin Gordon - Gold Coast Titans

Aidan Sezer - Gold Coast Titans

Albert Kelly - Gold Coast Titans

Greg Bird - Gold Coast Titans

Nate Myles - Gold Coast Titans


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#1187 Exiled Wiganer

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:47 AM

Most of the stuff I bought in 2008 was from the grounds. The organisers still have perhaps 6 weeks before the first game and a month during the tournament for this stuff. Might there be a delay while they sort out sponsors, who presumably want to see their names on the shirts?
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#1188 flyingking

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:50 AM

PNG players selected for trials, again more players will become available later

 

‘2013 Telikom PNG Kumuls’ World Cup Campaign’

Team Kumul Red vs Team Kumul Gold Game:

Team Kumul RED
1. Adex Wera
2. Gary Loh
3. Francis Paniu
4. Willie Minoga
5. George Benson
6. Roger Laka
7. Noel Zemming
8. Esau Siune
9. Wartovo Paura Jr
10. Petero Sunivalu
11. Sebastian Pandia
12. Larsen Marabe
13. Paul Aiton
14. Lawrence Tu’u
15. Elijah Riyong
16. Bernard Tatsim
17. Adam Korave

Team Kumul GOLD
1. Josiah Abavu
2. Thompson Teteh
3. Jason Tali
4. Israel Eliab
5. Tiger Emery
6. Jessie-Joe Nandye
7. Ase Boas
8. Joe Bruno
9. Charlie Wabo
10. Enoch Maki
11. Richard Kambo
12. Dion Aiye
13. David Loko
14. Mogi Wei
15. Wellington Albert
16. James Segeyaro
17. Gonzela Urakusie

Players unavailable:
David Mead
Tyson Martin
Nene Macdonald
Ray Thompson
Jason Chan
Neville Costigan
Menze Yere
Rhys Martin
Mark Mexico


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#1189 Yakstorm

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:20 AM

Reading the article again, it doesn't mention ticket sales for Wembley at all.

 

My apologies, I keep forgetting that Millennium is a double header as well... 

 

So anyway what do we think we have for the tournament so far for each venue? Some rough guesstimates for some of the venues: 

 

Millennium - 30K

Workington - 8K (x2)

Rochdale - 8K

Avignon - 13K

Limerick - 2.5K

Perpignan - 4K

The Gnoll - 3K

Wembley - 20K

Old Trafford - 45K


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:45 AM

For the tournament to be considered successful, the big games need big crowds. 60K for Cardiff, 70K for Wembley and a sell out at Old Trafford are the minimum requirements. Hopefully the group games can draw some good crowds too. If we can draw crowds of around 10K to Headingly and Warrington, in addition to some of the good crowds at Rochdale and Neath etc, we will have the basis for a good tournament.

 

Not sure if it's being mentioned but here (http://www.bbc.co.uk...league/16658285) is a link to the BBC's coverage of the tournament. Glad to see there will be regular highlights shows. But only showing 1 SF and 1 QF and only 1 non-England game, is very disappointing. The cameras will already be there and they have rights to show further matches, and it's disappointing that they aren't taking up that option. I'd like to see them put some other matches on the red button or on BBC Three like they have done for other sports recently.

 

Some of the best games of previous WC's have involved the 'lesser' nations, so it's a shame the nation won't have the chance to see these with the exception of Premier Sports' small subscription base.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:50 AM

I think the BBC have the balance right, and having had to make the most of the 2000 shambles, are justified in being cautious. It's a far cry from their much criticised 1995 coverage. Looking forward to signing up to Premier for the first time.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:51 AM

For the tournament to be considered successful, the big games need big crowds. 60K for Cardiff, 70K for Wembley and a sell out at Old Trafford are the minimum requirements. Hopefully the group games can draw some good crowds too. If we can draw crowds of around 10K to Headingly and Warrington, in addition to some of the good crowds at Rochdale and Neath etc, we will have the basis for a good tournament.

 

Not sure if it's being mentioned but here (http://www.bbc.co.uk...league/16658285) is a link to the BBC's coverage of the tournament. Glad to see there will be regular highlights shows. But only showing 1 SF and 1 QF and only 1 non-England game, is very disappointing. The cameras will already be there and they have rights to show further matches, and it's disappointing that they aren't taking up that option. I'd like to see them put some other matches on the red button or on BBC Three like they have done for other sports recently.

 

Some of the best games of previous WC's have involved the 'lesser' nations, so it's a shame the nation won't have the chance to see these with the exception of Premier Sports' small subscription base.

It seems strange that they don't even mention that they are covering the Wales v Italy opener.



#1193 brooza

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:57 AM

It seems strange that they don't even mention that they are covering the Wales v Italy opener.

I don't know if they've edited the page, but the first paragraph says:

 

BBC Sport will broadcast live television and radio coverage of all of England's group matches in the Rugby League World Cup, plus Wales' match against Italy.


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#1194 Dave T

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 12:04 PM

I don't know if they've edited the page, but the first paragraph says:

nah, I probably missed it. I was hoping the fact they had missed it might mean that there were other games they hadn't told us about. It looks like this is it for the BBC.



#1195 roughyedspud

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 02:08 PM

Your free ticket for Ireland v Samoa wasn't from the Peter Wynn rugby store was it? I was in there on the way to the game and they gave me free tickets!


no....i went without a ticket and hoped to pay on the door....but before i could someone gave me a free ticket outside the ground lol

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 03:20 PM

no....i went without a ticket and hoped to pay on the door....but before i could someone gave me a free ticket outside the ground lol


Was that the one in Parramatta? Have you still got your green wig? Think that's the only rugby league match I've been to where we travelled by ferry!

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:01 PM

yep i went on the ferry too...


was you sat in the goal end? i was the lad that caught a pat richards goal attempt...then rifled it at "samoan" kids head who was acting the fool down at the front,just skimmed his afro....lmao.....just before they all started running on the pitch lol

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#1198 roughyedspud

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:08 PM

given my last name is wynn....i could have got away with allsorts while in parramatta lol

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:09 PM

yep i went on the ferry too...


was you sat in the goal end? i was the lad that caught a pat richards goal attempt...then rifled it at "samoan" kids head who was acting the fool down at the front,just skimmed his afro....lmao.....just before they all started running on the pitch lol


I was at that match as well, and got free tickets from Peter Wynn Sports (as did the people I was with) when we bought loads of random shirts to take back with us (PNG for my brother, vintage 1980s Balmain shirt for me etc). We were sat on the side. I was, predictably, wearing my Sonics shirt - apparently we made the TV coverage (you could see us when Pat Richards was taking a kick from the touchline).

It was a good day, that - much better than all the England matches I attended, which by and large were thoroughly depressing.

In other news regarding the Bristol game:

1. The promotion is hotting up - the Sonics will be hosting some touch rugby on the closed streets of the city centre in October, with a big world cup stand with people handing out fliers, fixture lists etc
2. There will be a world cup stand at the Bristol half marathon this Sunday
3. More tickets have been sold for the Bristol game than some others, including one "traditional" RL hotbed (well, we say hotbed… it's up north at least)
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#1200 roughyedspud

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 04:14 PM

theres was more england fans at that game than samoa or ireland fans lol

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