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#161 Exiled Wiganer

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 11:06 AM

Could somebody "please explain" to us ignorant antipodeans just what is meant by the "ring of indifference", Club Wembley etc


It's Club Wembley seats, held by corporate types who rarely if ever, attend any events in great numbers.


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 11:11 AM

its basically a wembley season ticket for major events and concerts....extra, unscheduled events,like a world cup double header are'nt included...though as i said they would likely get first option of taking up their club wembley seats...if not they would be sold on

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#163 dhw

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 11:22 AM

Im so chuffed with all this positive talk and good news about the world cup.

But mmm Isnt this the same RFL that practically said last year that the Magic Weekend was close to sell out and it ended up with an average gate the same as when Cardiff held it and much closer to the heartlands?


Sellout just means that they have sold the tickets they have released for sale or distribution. So technically they were probably correct. Releasing tickets in stages is good for generating press releases because it allows for several positive press releases. It is extremely prevelent the the entertainments industry.

#164 DugSWRLgan

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:06 PM

I can buy 20 tickets in a row on each section of the bottom of wembley.

So how many,1,2's,3's,4's,5's,6's etc are there available

#165 shaun mc

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:59 PM

It's Club Wembley seats, held by corporate types who rarely if ever, attend any events in great numbers.


It holds 19,000 or so and regardless of whether 10 or 19,000 attend each game, 19,000 are counted in the attendance.

Edited by shaun mc, 08 February 2013 - 02:00 PM.


#166 Dave T

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 03:40 PM

It holds 19,000 or so and regardless of whether 10 or 19,000 attend each game, 19,000 are counted in the attendance.

That's not strictly true.

When the Challenge Cup was a complete sellout in 2010 (Wire v Leeds) it was only 85k due to some of these being empty.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 06:37 PM

Oh my god are we still having this daft arguement about club wembley? Seriously?
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#168 jannerboyuk

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 06:38 PM

I noticed that - they couldn't fill it for the national team of the #1 sport in the country versus the world's most famous international Football side. You have to wonder what would fill it.

um a competitive fixture not a half arsed friendly in tough times?
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Posted 08 February 2013 - 07:57 PM

That's not strictly true.

When the Challenge Cup was a complete sellout in 2010 (Wire v Leeds) it was only 85k due to some of these being empty.


Club Wembley aside the Challenge Cup has never sold out. If you were there Dave you'd have seen the empty seats. Upper tier in the corners usually (or maybe these are where supporters just don't turn up).
Just looked at the first 3 mins on You Tube and there are plenty of red seats empty around for the 2010 final, not huge swathes. So 85.2k - meaning 4.8k short of capacity counting Club Wembley as full looks about right to me.
Not trying to de-generate the attendances but there has never been a total sell-out.

Edited by shaun mc, 08 February 2013 - 07:57 PM.


#170 ArmchairRhino

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:06 PM

Club Wembley aside the Challenge Cup has never sold out. If you were there Dave you'd have seen the empty seats. Upper tier in the corners usually (or maybe these are where supporters just don't turn up).
Just looked at the first 3 mins on You Tube and there are plenty of red seats empty around for the 2010 final, not huge swathes. So 85.2k - meaning 4.8k short of capacity counting Club Wembley as full looks about right to me.
Not trying to de-generate the attendances but there has never been a total sell-out.


Though the Saints-Catalans game did :unsure:
There's no dignity in plastic seats

#171 shaun mc

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:16 PM

Though the Saints-Catalans game did :unsure:

Lower than 2010 by about a 1,000

#172 Dave T

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:56 AM

Club Wembley aside the Challenge Cup has never sold out. If you were there Dave you'd have seen the empty seats. Upper tier in the corners usually (or maybe these are where supporters just don't turn up).
Just looked at the first 3 mins on You Tube and there are plenty of red seats empty around for the 2010 final, not huge swathes. So 85.2k - meaning 4.8k short of capacity counting Club Wembley as full looks about right to me.
Not trying to de-generate the attendances but there has never been a total sell-out.

yes it did.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:59 AM

http://www.thechalle...er.php?id=19462

Every available ticket sold. People may not have turned up, but thats a different issue.

#174 shaun mc

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:08 AM

http://www.thechalle...er.php?id=19462

Every available ticket sold. People may not have turned up, but thats a different issue.


I can see what the website says Dave, but 5,000 didn't turn up?

The 5,000 less can't be Club Wembley either as there is no way it was 3/4 full, nearer to 3/4 empty unfortunately.

Maybe we sell a lot of corporate tickets to the final, that then remain unused.

I know my company was offering 2 tickets for the 2012 final on a highest bid basis that didn't get taken up. Mind you they only offered them on the Friday afternoon.

#175 Dave T

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:26 AM

Thats not true. Are you sure you watched the right video on youtube? The 2012 final certainly matches your description - not however the 2010 one.
The RFL got hold of as many Club Wembley seats as it could to sell on. The Club Wembley area was the fullest it has been for RL.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:36 AM

I can see what the website says Dave, but 5,000 didn't turn up?

The 5,000 less can't be Club Wembley either as there is no way it was 3/4 full, nearer to 3/4 empty unfortunately.

Maybe we sell a lot of corporate tickets to the final, that then remain unused.

I know my company was offering 2 tickets for the 2012 final on a highest bid basis that didn't get taken up. Mind you they only offered them on the Friday afternoon.

when tickets are a tenner a pop then plenty don't turn up. Me for one.
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#177 roughyedspud

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:10 AM

the RFL only have something like 73,500 tickets to sell for the challenge cup final....more often that not we do sell all our allocation..

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#178 shaun mc

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:14 AM

I can see what the website says Dave, but 5,000 didn't turn up?

The 5,000 less can't be Club Wembley either as there is no way it was 3/4 full, nearer to 3/4 empty unfortunately.

Maybe we sell a lot of corporate tickets to the final, that then remain unused.

I know my company was offering 2 tickets for the 2012 final on a highest bid basis that didn't get taken up. Mind you they only offered them on the Friday afternoon.




This You Tube clip from 2010 (with the kit clash) 1 min 20 secs in is enough to see that the section of Club Wembley in the shot wasn't even 25% full, nearer 15%. Everyone should have been in their seats by then. Also a shot 4min 57 secs in.
Though admittedly the longer camera shot angles do make Club Wembley look fuller than the nearer ones that I'm quoting above.
I was in the Warrington end that year, 1st row top tier in the corner, and even that wasn't 100% full. People do not turn up though.

#179 John Rhino

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

Oh my god are we still having this daft arguement about club wembley? Seriously?


It's not daft to discuss if they are on sale or not for the biggest sporting event this year.

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#180 Dave T

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:50 AM

This You Tube clip from 2010 (with the kit clash) 1 min 20 secs in is enough to see that the section of Club Wembley in the shot wasn't even 25% full, nearer 15%. Everyone should have been in their seats by then. Also a shot 4min 57 secs in.
Though admittedly the longer camera shot angles do make Club Wembley look fuller than the nearer ones that I'm quoting above.
I was in the Warrington end that year, 1st row top tier in the corner, and even that wasn't 100% full. People do not turn up though.

have a look at 2m - the camera pans round from pitch level. There are very few gaps - although a pitch level view isnt great for seeing gaps. Either way the angle doesnt hide 13k empty seats.





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