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[duffymoon]

Swinton have played out of town for over twenty years and at present do very little to promote the club in M27.Hopefully if the new stadium at Agecroft gets the go ahead things will improve.

[keighley]

The problem in Manchester is the football teams a kid growing up in Manchester today more than likely will support the Manchester clubs unless a family member is a big Salford. Oldham or swinton fan. The Manchester football clubs get far more publicity than say Salford etc. Competeing with football today is very hard especially when the Manchester area as the best 2 footy teams at present too. The kids at school will talk about Rooney. Aguero etc not luke pattern etc. which IMO RL will always struggle where football is concerned. I know Leeds and Wigan do well but their crowds are no where near the footy teams crowds. It's too hard today for RL clubs to get priority publication over football.

You are right about the football but Man U and Man C were always big soccer clubs and RL was quite successful in Manchester in the past. Maybe the soccer clubs are now just so huge that RL cannot compete. There are other reasons as well for RL's decline but it's a complex topic and would derail the thread if I went off on that tangent.

[41hound]

And the clock keeps remorselessly ticking down to 20.00 hours, five weeks on Friday when Salford are due to play their first game of the new season at home to Wigan.

I think we are all aware of that. - I dont think it is going to happen.

At the moment - It is just a question of if we go out of business and reform in the bargain basement or fold and dissappear completely. We have half a team, no money to pay them and no help in sight.

Edited by 41hound, 23 December 2012 - 03:41 PM.

[keighley]

Swinton have played out of town for over twenty years and at present do very little to promote the club in M27.Hopefully if the new stadium at Agecroft gets the go ahead things will improve.

How far is Barton from Swinton ?. There might be an opportunity to move to a brand new stadium opening up soon.

[41hound]

How far is Barton from Swinton ?. There might be an opportunity to move to a brand new stadium opening up soon.

I think they are still planning the stadium? They should be submitting a planning application soon. It is a few years away from being reality - I hope it does come off for them as they need to be in their home area and not in Leigh.

[Mumby Magic]

Why haven't the RFL made a comment or offered help. Or have they?

[thundergaz]

Why haven't the RFL made a comment or offered help. Or have they?

They don't see Salford as a big club I'm guessing or the debt is too large. But IMO it shouldn't be one rule for some it should be one rule for all. But I guess if the RFL keep helping clubs then what's stopping the clubs overspending and relying on the RFL to bail them out. But I really do hope Salford get through this even if they have to play in champ one at least the fans will still have a team to watch.

[tonyXIII]

I think they are still planning the stadium? They should be submitting a planning application soon. It is a few years away from being reality - I hope it does come off for them as they need to be in their home area and not in Leigh.

Forgive me for being excessively cynical, but if Salford stop playing at Barton, would the council look kindly on an application to build another stadium within its boundaries? Or will they put obstacles in Swinton's way?

BTW, Agecroft is quite a long way from Barton. You can find both on Google Earth or Google maps.

[41hound]

Forgive me for being excessively cynical, but if Salford stop playing at Barton, would the council look kindly on an application to build another stadium within its boundaries? Or will they put obstacles in Swinton's way?

BTW, Agecroft is quite a long way from Barton. You can find both on Google Earth or Google maps.

Possibly. The recssion and austerity is hitting council spending big time. And I expect they will be wary of rugby projects now. I do hope that Swinton get their new ground - our rivals, but a grand old club.

[PaulT]

As far as I'm aware, we haven't asked the council for any monies although I maybe wrong. I think the big difference between Agecroft and Barton is that Agecroft will be a community facility open 364 days a year which could be a reason the council don't compare the two projects when it comes to helping us.

I am aware that Salford Council have been asking Swinton to submit the planning application so I can't see there being an issue.

[41hound]

As far as I'm aware, we haven't asked the council for any monies although I maybe wrong. I think the big difference between Agecroft and Barton is that Agecroft will be a community facility open 364 days a year which could be a reason the council don't compare the two projects when it comes to helping us.

I am aware that Salford Council have been asking Swinton to submit the planning application so I can't see there being an issue.

That sounds great Paul - I hope they accomodate your plans and it all produces a stadium / community set up to be proud of.

[Ian (Pencil) Elliott]

This is why I think Broncos have something when they put 60 past Warrington with a lot of home grown players.

Wasn't the 60 put past Warrington before the Cup final or start of the playoffs? Seem to remember it was before a big game.

So why do you champion 60 by London as 'have something' but then do down Fev beating Cas because we had turned our attention to that game, highlighting the fact that Sheffield put 60 by us.

Looks like the usual double standards a bit there parky. In additon the Sheffield game was one of the srangest I have ever seen with quite a few of their tries coming from lost balls and interceptions. If you wanted to point a game out then I would look at Fax hammering us after the cup game because we looked to have very little left in the tank.

[RS]

Do Salford have a twinning arrangement with a Championship club?

[gazza77]

Do Salford have a twinning arrangement with a Championship club?

Yes, Oldham. For the benefit of those Salford fans on here, I'll refrain from the obvious joke.

[41hound]

Yes, Oldham. For the benefit of those Salford fans on here, I'll refrain from the obvious joke.

Thanks! - we have that had that much ###### anyway of late and plenty more to come ...

[The Parksider]

Why haven't the RFL made a comment or offered help. Or have they?

According to Martyn Sadler the RFL are not in a position to help? At Bradford the RFL could ease the squeeze via buying the ground, not so at Barton??

A point to note is Catalans are reported to be running on a Euro 7.5M budget 2013 which is £6,000,000.

There's "help to stay alive" - although if the Reds aren't in SL they won't be able to play at Barton? If they scrape into SL with a few quid what losses are the next two years going to throw up? And help to compete which would mean millions have to be found, is beyond the RFL and it doesn't look like any investor is too interested according to Mr. Sadler.

That includes SLE who at least bid for the Bulls, why I dunno? Maybe to show investors they favoured the club for SL in future. No such signal for Salford or any investor, but then again I'd guess the RFL/SLE already know where they wanna go 2015.

That seems to be sadly where it stands now but corrections welcomed....

[RS]

Makes you wonder what they will do with Millennium Magic, the best I can come up with is not to include the Catalan Dragons but how that would work with league points I'm not sure.

Could have whoever is bottom of the league say a month before be selected to play a Championship select motivated by winning oney.

Both above are daft ideas but I can't think of better one's given the games are for league points.

[flyingking]

Alternatively give the points to Widnes as they would be the team most affected by a Salford withdrawal and move the Calder derby across to the Sunday,

[Amber Avenger]

Yep, that seems a perfectly logical idea