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#1 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 05:37 PM

Reports are now saying over a dozen killed.

At an elementary school (primary school).
With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

#2 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 05:45 PM

CBS reporting 27 dead. 14 kids.
With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 06:04 PM

Reports up to 18 kids. Could be a whole class.
With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

#4 Matt J

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:05 AM

Its saddening.

The Right wingers out in an instant to defend the second amendment.

Right next to Christmas n all. poor kids :(

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:39 AM

Not sure there's much you can do or say tbh, except obviously be shocked. Sadly, it won't be the last time this happens either. Terrible news :(

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#6 markleeds

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 10:30 AM

The USA where owning a gun is a right and healthcare a privilege.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 02:52 PM

I read the blogs of a left liberal [if there is one] he writes for the Philadelphia daily news,and he spoke about a statement by a by a right wing broadcaster about Obama's reaction and emotional statement. apparently he said "this is Obamas Riechstag moment".So I wonder what that means?is he implying that the president is going to make capital out of this and organise a christalnacht on guns and the 2nd amendment?
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 10:14 PM

America is not a civilised country, they have had centuries to prove it and have continually failed,

Any country were it is the right of citizens to have the means legally to have at their disposal enough weaponry to wipe out a class of school kids without trying hard to get the slaying tools is sick from top to bottom.

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#9 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 11:10 PM

Names and ages have been released. All the kids are 6-7 years old.
With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

#10 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 11:17 PM

America is not a civilised country, they have had centuries to prove it and have continually failed,


I can't agree but can see where you are coming from. I have been to the states many times and as people they are some of the friendliest people I have met. In fact the political state of the USA (gun laws, health, etc) always appear to be at odds to the people I have met (I didn't ask for people political views but they can't all of been democratic!).
With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

#11 gingerjon

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:10 AM

Any country were it is the right of citizens to have the means legally to have at their disposal enough weaponry to wipe out a class of school kids without trying hard to get the slaying tools is sick from top to bottom.


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#12 fieldofclothofgold

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:41 PM

America is not a civilised country, they have had centuries to prove it and have continually failed,

Any country were it is the right of citizens to have the means legally to have at their disposal enough weaponry to wipe out a class of school kids without trying hard to get the slaying tools is sick from top to bottom.

Yes definately sick and I live there.Where I live its like a bible belt,and its about 20 minutes from Phila and they told me yesterday about 20 years ago in the mall where I shop and drink there was a shooting there just before christmas
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
The hour is getting late
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

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#13 fieldofclothofgold

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:44 PM

I can't agree but can see where you are coming from. I have been to the states many times and as people they are some of the friendliest people I have met. In fact the political state of the USA (gun laws, health, etc) always appear to be at odds to the people I have met (I didn't ask for people political views but they can't all of been democratic!).

Yes I get that impression too.I think the real right wingers with the Charlton Heston love of guns ,cold dead hand etc and no socialised healthcare must only spout this stuff on the internet
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
The hour is getting late
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

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#14 JohnM

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:50 PM

OK, So it's Wikipedia, but this reads like a fair description of US healthcare.

http://en.wikipedia....e_United_States

Edited by JohnM, 16 December 2012 - 03:50 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 04:11 PM

I've long since given up worrying about what Americans do with guns. The only American I know who actively owns one uses it/them for hunting. Proper hunting stalking deer by hiding in trees for hours etc.) and he eats everything he kills. I would trust him with those guns wherever he lived, and he would get a license for sure, even over here.

As for the rest, well its up to them. I often wonder when I'm over there who might be wandering around with a pistol in their coat.

The deaths of these poor kids and their amazing teachers will do little to change things in my opinion. It's ingrained in the psyche and Americans are remarkably conservative - even many who vote democrat.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 04:31 PM

I've long since given up worrying about what Americans do with guns. The only American I know who actively owns one uses it/them for hunting. Proper hunting stalking deer by hiding in trees for hours etc.) and he eats everything he kills. I would trust him with those guns wherever he lived, and he would get a license for sure, even over here.


And what if your friend for some reason lost the plot?

He now has a gun. The outcome could be just about the same as this type of thing.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:28 PM

Been announced today that a "British" kid was one of those killed. Does David Cameron call the American ambassador in for a meeting using threatening tones, like he would if it was a Muslim country, or will he just ignore it like he does with everything else where America is concerned?
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#18 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

And what if your friend for some reason lost the plot?

He now has a gun. The outcome could be just about the same as this type of thing.

Yes, because everyone who owns a gun is going to "lose the plot" it comes with ownership of a gun.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:02 PM

Some of the pro gun lobby in the states are saying it could have been prevented if the teachers were armed :wacko:
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#20 markleeds

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:35 PM

I remember watching a tv programme in the US where a mother had pleaded for her son to stop partying and explained that she found him in the back garden with guns, but her major issue was the fact he was drinking.




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