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#421 Saint Billinge

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 02:12 PM

First Swansea and now Wigan winning a major domestic cup for the first time in the same season and surely a first for the sport?



#422 Trojan

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 02:19 PM

I don't think one FA cup victory, as remarkable as it might be, equals that.

 

I read Paul Wilson, not one of my favourite people (see previous posts re Millenium Weekend) in yesterday's Guardian, damning RL with faint praise. Now that Wigan have won the FA Cup we'll never hear the last of "soccer taking over from RL in Wigan."  Speaking as someone who worked in Wigan for 15 years, soccer has always been bigger than RL, it's just that many Wiganers support Bolton, or Blackburn, or one of the Liverpool or Manchester clubs. If Wigan Athletic's crowds are higher than the RL club's crowds, could it be that a lot of them are away supporters from Liverpool etc. Stoke is not a million miles away either.


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#423 Johnoco

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 02:30 PM

Yes, Soccer is bigger practically everywhere. I just hate people who get nasty if you have the nerve to prefer another sport. And people like that cockney latic make me laugh they are so insecure. Its not enough that almost everywhere is dominated by soccer, you have to prefer it or they get nasty.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 02:34 PM

But anyway....looks like the Man City boss is getting the boot as they haven't won anything this year.
I'm not that convinced it is the sport RL should try to mimic as lots of RL fans are claiming.

#425 Wolford6

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 02:37 PM

First Swansea and now Wigan winning a major domestic cup for the first time in the same season and surely a first for the sport?

 

I think it's a symptom of the fact that it is far more important from a financial standpoint to finish well in the Premiership than to win a cup. Top teams typically play squad players and reserves in the early rounds of the cups.


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#426 Saint Billinge

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 03:08 PM

I think it's a symptom of the fact that it is far more important from a financial standpoint to finish well in the Premiership than to win a cup. Top teams typically play squad players and reserves in the early rounds of the cups.

 

The rotating of squad players has been going on for some considerable time though! 



#427 gingerjon

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:39 PM

I think it's a symptom of the fact that it is far more important from a financial standpoint to finish well in the Premiership than to win a cup. Top teams typically play squad players and reserves in the early rounds of the cups.

Man City didn't put out a reserve team; Bradford beat the best available of both Arsenal and Aston Villa.

Some teams might rotate to avoid injuries in the cup but it's not that normal, particularly in the latter stages.
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#428 Trojan

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:40 PM

Yes, Soccer is bigger practically everywhere. I just hate people who get nasty if you have the nerve to prefer another sport. And people like that cockney latic make me laugh they are so insecure. Its not enough that almost everywhere is dominated by soccer, you have to prefer it or they get nasty.

 

What really bugs me is the attention paid to soccer on non- sport TV.  "Pointless" - a programme I watch at tea time with my wife invariably has at least one questiion connected with "footbow"  and there are always a couple who say they like "footbow"  Very rarely are there any questions on other sports.  Obviously "footbow" questions invariably put women contestants at a disadvantage and result in their being eliminated.  As my wife says there are never any questions about knitting! ;)


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#429 West Country Eagle

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 05:00 PM

Fantastic result for Wigan yesterday, but they've got it all to do to save themselves from relegation now, given that almost all the teams around them got decent results this weekend (aside from Villa, of course). Lets see what their crowds are like in the Championship next season…
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#430 gingerjon

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 05:38 PM

What really bugs me is the attention paid to soccer on non- sport TV.  "Pointless" - a programme I watch at tea time with my wife invariably has at least one questiion connected with "footbow"  and there are always a couple who say they like "footbow"  Very rarely are there any questions on other sports.  Obviously "footbow" questions invariably put women contestants at a disadvantage and result in their being eliminated.  As my wife says there are never any questions about knitting! ;)

The last episode of Pointless I saw had no questions about football but one about Super League. 100 people had 100 seconds to name as many teams in Super League in 2011: one team said Catalan, one said Harlequins. Can't remember which was lower but the lowest score was Crusaders.
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#431 gingerjon

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:40 PM

Missed penalty ... counterattack ... boom.

Getting old, boys.


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#432 Wolford6

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:54 PM

"Pointless" - a programme I watch at tea time with my wife invariably has at least one questiion connected with "footbow"  and there are always a couple who say they like "footbow"

 

They'll be Miwwawl supporters.


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#433 Bostik Bailey

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:36 PM

Fantastic result for Wigan yesterday, but they've got it all to do to save themselves from relegation now, given that almost all the teams around them got decent results this weekend (aside from Villa, of course). Lets see what their crowds are like in the Championship next season…


Yes they need something from the Arsenal game on Tuesday otherwise they are down. Arsenal need to win to keep the Champions league place.

Oh well Martinez to Goodison it is then, no contract to buy out.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:37 PM

Wigan do what Brighton could have done.

I'm assuming that Shrek of this parish is smiling *very* broadly.

Indeed I am, can't smile wide enough and expect it to be that way for sometime regardless of how the rest of the season pans out!



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:24 PM

I think that's true of every sports achievement compared to a predecessor event fifty years ago.

Sport is presented, and regarded with way too much importance.

We used to despise the likes of Cuba and East Germany because they were tinpot countries who used professional sportspeople to gain propaganda by winning medals. It worked internationally and was intended to give a sense of pride to their citizens.

Nowadays, successive UK governments have used the same sporting-success policy to camouflage their allowing the decline of the country in terms of world importance and industrial power.

The UK's sports successes are presented with a smile rather than a stare, but its still bread and circuses.

Mate we dusagree on all sorts but that is a damn fine post

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:06 PM

Congratulations to FC Halifax Town on their play off final win today. Puts them back up into the conference.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:07 PM

Mate we dusagree on all sorts but that is a damn fine post

 

 

agreed, bread and circuses.


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#438 Wolford6

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:08 PM

Mate we dusagree on all sorts but that is a damn fine post

 

 

Sorry about that, I promise to be back on form next week.

;) :D

 

 

Cheers anyway.

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#439 Wolford6

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:15 PM

What are the chances of Rafa Benitez getting the Everton job?


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#440 heartofGold

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 07:21 PM

What are the chances of Rafa Benitez getting the Everton job?

:unsure: Very very good hopefully?



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