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#761 Larry the Leit

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 09:36 PM

Why didn't his defence refer to the unused statements during his trial?

Since when did altering a Facebook page make a him more or less guilty?

I won't go on any more, other than to ask you what the estimated conviction rate is for these types of crimes is, and to query whether or not you think that there must have been some pretty compelling evidence presented at his trial to convince a jury to find him guilty in the absence of forensic evidence.

A right I appeal only applies if there is grounds by which to appeal (new evidence for instance). I believe in innocence until proven guilty, and guilt until a reasonable challenge can be made.

Edited by Larry the Leit, 22 October 2013 - 10:03 PM.


#762 Wolford6

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 10:31 PM

I honestly don't know any of these things.

 

There is just such a groundswell of support for him that would not be there if his community thought he was capable of any callous rape. His girlfriend has stood by him.

 

Two men have sex with a woman.  The woman says she can't remember anything in detail and that her drink must have been spiked. The hotel videotape shows her walking in without any apparent unsteadiness.

 

Both are charged with rape. One man gets found not guilty; one guilty. That is, on prima facie appraisal, an unusual outcome.

 

I'm not saying he is innocent; just that

 

(1) I hope he gets an appeal.

 

(2) Andrew Mitchell, the National Union of Mineworkers and the Hillsbrough families would probably attest that the Police and courts do not always act with stainless impartiality. 

 

(3) Stuart Hall got 18 months.


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#763 Saint Billinge

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 03:07 PM

Attending an under elevens match on Saturday last, I found out later that some lads on our team had been verbally abusing a rather big lad playing for the opposition, saying he was too fat to play football. Our Stu is going to bring the matter up at training, as well as having my say on Saturday. Now I know things are said in junior football that aren't complimentary, but surely this is bang out of order? I just hope the lad goes on to continue playing the sport, but these things can be off-putting to say the least. 

 

Interestingly, William Henry Foulke was an outstanding goalkeeper for Sheffield United way back in time even though reputedly weighing 25 stone.


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#764 Futtocks

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 03:45 PM

Interestingly, William Henry Foulke was an outstanding goalkeeper for Sheffield United way back in time even though reputedly weighing 25 stone.

...and don't forget Neil Ruddock and Jan Molby.


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#765 Johnoco

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 04:05 PM

He wasn't actually much cop, it's just that nobody could see the goal.
I think he played for Bradford City too.

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#766 Larry the Leit

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 04:31 PM

Attending an under elevens match on Saturday last, I found out later that some lads on our team had been verbally abusing a rather big lad playing for the opposition, saying he was too fat to play football. Our Stu is going to bring the matter up at training, as well as having my say on Saturday. Now I know things are said in junior football that aren't complimentary, but surely this is bang out of order? I just hope the lad goes on to continue playing the sport, but these things can be off-putting to say the least. 

 

Interestingly, William Henry Foulke was an outstanding goalkeeper for Sheffield United way back in time even though reputedly weighing 25 stone.

 

 

But wasn't he referred to as fatty?  Which goes against your argument does it not?



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 05:17 PM

Attending an under elevens match on Saturday last, I found out later that some lads on our team had been verbally abusing a rather big lad playing for the opposition, saying he was too fat to play football. Our Stu is going to bring the matter up at training, as well as having my say on Saturday. Now I know things are said in junior football that aren't complimentary, but surely this is bang out of order? I just hope the lad goes on to continue playing the sport, but these things can be off-putting to say the least. 

 

Interestingly, William Henry Foulke was an outstanding goalkeeper for Sheffield United way back in time even though reputedly weighing 25 stone.

it may be the spur the lad needs to become britains 1st Olympic sumo gold medal, the lard works in mysterious ways


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#768 Wolford6

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:07 PM

He wasn't actually much cop ....
I think he played for Bradford City.

 

Gawd. Talk about stating the flipping obvious.

;) B)


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#769 Johnoco

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:48 PM

Gawd. Talk about stating the flipping obvious.

;) B)

That was much more of an open net than he gave!  :tongue:


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#770 Saint Billinge

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:45 AM

He wasn't actually much cop, it's just that nobody could see the goal.
I think he played for Bradford City too.

 

Not according to records, although it was way back in time. He did win two FA Cup medals as well as a Championship one. 



#771 Saint Billinge

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:03 AM

But wasn't he referred to as fatty?  Which goes against your argument does it not?

 

You are correct in what you say regards Foulke but does this make it right to ignore this type of bullying? What's not in doubt is that some children do commit suicide after being constantly bullied. We can't change the past, but we can try to help youngsters improve their attitude to one another. Respect today at all levels is on the decline: I can vouch for that personally!


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#772 Johnoco

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:20 AM

Not according to records, although it was way back in time. He did win two FA Cup medals as well as a Championship one.

I am pretty certain he did play for City.

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No cause for so much hatred, I'm just a different man

Pull off that cover, I will too, and learn to understand

With music deep inside we'll make world unity our plan

 

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#773 Saint Billinge

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:27 AM

I am pretty certain he did play for City.

 

He did indeed. According to records 22 matches. It's been said that he once snapped the crossbar when playing for Bradford City. Apparently, he swung on it during the taking of a penalty. It's also said that Chelsea became the first club to use ballboys conveniently placed behind goal to make Foulke look even more huge. He was certainly a character. It seems a similar ploy happened when entering the field of play. A tiny winger named Moran would walk behind Foulke, leaving the opposition in dread of confronting the huge man. 


Edited by Saint Billinge, 24 October 2013 - 08:14 AM.


#774 Futtocks

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 12:10 PM

Go to Twitter and search for #askharry :biggrin:


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:42 AM

If anyone has any Slovanian connections and can get me a ticket for the FC Maribor v Wigan game I'd be much obliged!  Hard work this European lark!  Wigan sold out of 652 tickets in under an hour and a further 150 exec tickets and packages on the same day apparently.

 

Enjoyed the game last night, fair play to the 12 Russians who made the 2500 mile trip to Wigan, there's every danager we may now qualify for knockout stages, a win may do it, a win and a draw from the last 3 games almost certainly will.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:57 PM

Had a day off today so decided to watch some of the argentine football on demand on premier sports (thought I would get my moneys worth as I have just signed up). Pleasantly suprised by the skills on show, its like a fusion of la liga and the epl, silky skills plus some hard tackling

#777 Bleep1673

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:18 PM

Ping - just to nudge this thread back onto the front page


Edited by Bleep1673, 29 November 2013 - 04:18 PM.

Swinton RLFC est 1866 - Supplying England with players when most of your clubs were in nappies

#778 Bleep1673

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:20 PM

Also the draw for the World Cup finals in Brazil is being made next Friday*, and as England are unseeded, which teams would you want England to avoid/draw?

 

*Carefully avoiding an overlap with the RLWC, well done Brazil.


Edited by Bleep1673, 29 November 2013 - 04:21 PM.

Swinton RLFC est 1866 - Supplying England with players when most of your clubs were in nappies

#779 Ullman

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 01:43 PM

Assem Allam's early festive messsage to Hull City fans

 

Deary me

 

 


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#780 Bleep1673

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 03:07 PM

An appalling slur on the people of this fine city? If the cap fits...... Leeds V Hull, CCSF?

 

What did they want him to say Hulligans?

 

Mind you, he only chairs the club, it's not his to muck about with the name without consulting those who pay through the turnstiles, especially these days.

 

One thing slightly worries me though, if he does rebrand City as Tigers, City fans will have to buy an entire months wages (or whatever) to replace everything they've bought with the "City" logo, with newer "Tigers" stuff.

 

PS, will Castleford try to take them to court for copyright breach, like Denver Broncos did when Brisbane Broncos announced their name, or should we inform the Detroit Tigers management?

 

Although this is out of order:  http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/25174266


Edited by Bleep1673, 01 December 2013 - 03:45 PM.

Swinton RLFC est 1866 - Supplying England with players when most of your clubs were in nappies




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