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[Tre Cool]

Is that a 30 mins train journey from Euston to MK station or 30 mins from Euston to the ground? Twickenham may be 20ish mins from Waterloo but the Stoop is another 10-15mins walk on top. How far is the ground from MK station?

Anither 2.5 miles ish so would be a bus or taxi ride. Not gonna happen though.

[The Daddy_merged]

I think Milton Keynes is a decent shout, not too far away from london and a decent catchment area.

[cookey]

Canetman to solve the Palestinian question next.

[The Daddy_merged]

I suppose you also have to consider that the boundaries of london are growing all the time, due to transport links, urban sprawl etc. Alot of londoners have moved out to places like Oxford, Reading, Kent, Milton Keynes, Essex and commute into work from these areas. So it would be worth considering a move to one of these places. What is key and has been highlighted in the Salford case is that the Broncos need to move somewhere which has the potential for them to develop revenue streams and build links with commercial partners. Not just to become tenants, if your a tenant should the landlord change its business model as has been the case with Quins it can leave you in a sticky scenario, perhaps there is an argument that we should follow Salfords lead and proactively look for a new invester owner to facilitate such a stance or strategy?

[Garvers]

If anyone thinks Gillingham or MK is the answer, God knows what kind of deluded question they're asking.

[Tre Cool]

If anyone thinks Gillingham or MK is the answer, God knows what kind of deluded question they're asking.

It depends if you want a stable south east club or a London club at any cost. Its not deluded but opinions differ on what the priority is. Im not sure either way.

[MrPosh]

Gillingham is a dump its more like an old pit town in Yorkshire full of charity and kebab shops and retards.

I am always delighted to learn something new every day.

Today I learned that CANETMAN is from Gillingham.

[foozler]

Is that a 30 mins train journey from Euston to MK station or 30 mins from Euston to the ground? Twickenham may be 20ish mins from Waterloo but the Stoop is another 10-15mins walk on top. How far is the ground from MK station?

Fastest service from Euston to Bletchley (nearest station to MK Dons stadium) is 36mins.

[Lobbygobbler]

Twickenham may be 20ish mins from Waterloo but the Stoop is another 10-15mins walk on top. How far is the ground from MK station?

Plus, the trains are not every few minutes like the tube so you have to add on margin of at least 15mins

Plus Sunday trains run less often

Plus you spend 10 mins changing from the tube to train at Waterloo as it is huge

Plus Waterloo is not THAT central

[South Wakefield Sharks]

Plus, the trains are not every few minutes like the tube so you have to add on margin of at least 15mins

Plus Sunday trains run less often

Plus you spend 10 mins changing from the tube to train at Waterloo as it is huge

Plus Waterloo is not THAT central

Overall you're pretty impressed then!

[foozler]

If anyone thinks Gillingham or MK is the answer, God knows what kind of deluded question they're asking.

Question is: where is the best place for a professional RL side in the south east to set up shop?


There are currently 5 'London' clubs in the Aviva Premiership (in a league of 12). Of those 5, 3 have had to move outside of the M25 and do not look like they will move back inside it any time soon, 1 of them gets decent crowds at Wembley (£10 tickets) and is moving into an athletics stadium with a 10k capacity. Only 1 pro RU club is thriving in London, Quins which is the most Establishment of all the RU clubs in England. All of which to me says, there is limited demand for indigenous professional club rugby (ie long established RU) within the M25, let alone a 'foreign' species of the sport.

Milton Keynes seems to have an appetite for rugby, there are RL connections in the area and it is a very decent facility. Probably a better bet than either Orient or Gillingham.

[THE RED ROOSTER]

Here is a question that should be asked before contemplating a move to anywhere

What does London Broncos stand for and who does the club represent ?

If you play for Wigan you play for arguably the most easilty recognised Rugby League name worldwide and you represent a tradition at that club.

If you play for Castleford, the club with the most "local" (i.e come from within 10 miles of the ground)fanbase in the game, you probably grew up there and as a Cas Tiger you represent a community and a club which puts a nondescript northern town on the sporting map.

And so on within the game..

But what does London stand for ?

It seems a simple question without a simple answer.

London as many have pointed out is a big place. Leyton Orient represents an East End of London Club not a club with which people in the North, West or South would associate with even if you changed the name to London Orient.

London Broncos are in West London, where the club originated as Fulham, it has spent the majority of its years as a West London Club like it or not but has it ever been defined what the club stands for and who it represents.

In the old days it was a largely antipodean club and that was the main accusation pointed at it from the North but it had a sense of unity at least amongst the players. As the antipodean influence has waned the club seems unsure of its identity, and for six years had someone else's identity as Harlequins and now seems confused as to what it is and who it wants to attract.

Out of season soccer fans on a jolly
Local residents of Whitton & Twickenham (or Tower Hamlets and Banglatown)
Out of season Rugby Union fans
The transient Antipodean community
Expat Northerners seeking a Rugby League Fix
Anybody who wants a free ticket

Resolve this question and IMO you are a step closer to deciding where the club should go.

[London ARL]

Plus Waterloo is not THAT central

1,050 yards as the crow flies from Charing Cross.

[EastLondonMike]

And approx £30 return train fare on a saturday from Euston..

[bulldog_paddy]

anyone fancy a speculation as to where the Bradford game will be?

[Tre Cool]

Plus, the trains are not every few minutes like the tube so you have to add on margin of at least 15mins

Plus Sunday trains run less often

Plus you spend 10 mins changing from the tube to train at Waterloo as it is huge

Plus Waterloo is not THAT central

Waterloo is not huge, and it is central. Twickenham is very easy to get to from central London or the motorway. Sunday trains have on occasion been a slight problem. Anyway we're leaving the Stoop so we'll have a whole new stadium for RL fans in London to invent reasons to not make any effort to get to.

Its a miracle that England RU get any spectators to their national stadium its so hard to get to. I mean on top of a mountain in Cornwall really isnt London.

[Tre Cool]

anyone fancy a speculation as to where the Bradford game will be?

Gillingham or Leyton.

[Northern Sol]

All of which to me says, there is limited demand for indigenous professional club rugby (ie long established RU) within the M25, let alone a 'foreign' species of the sport.

It tells me that there is a shortage of suitable stadiums in London.

[ArmchairRhino]

anyone fancy a speculation as to where the Bradford game will be?

Announced today that the London Grand Prix will be at the Olympic Stadium. Sure the Broncos will getva good deal at Crystal Palace.

[Lobbygobbler]

Here is a question that should be asked before contemplating a move to anywhere

What does London Broncos stand for and who does the club represent ?

If you play for Wigan you play for arguably the most easilty recognised Rugby League name worldwide and you represent a tradition at that club.

If you play for Castleford, the club with the most "local" (i.e come from within 10 miles of the ground)fanbase in the game, you probably grew up there and as a Cas Tiger you represent a community and a club which puts a nondescript northern town on the sporting map.

And so on within the game..

But what does London stand for ?

It seems a simple question without a simple answer.

London as many have pointed out is a big place. Leyton Orient represents an East End of London Club not a club with which people in the North, West or South would associate with even if you changed the name to London Orient.

London Broncos are in West London, where the club originated as Fulham, it has spent the majority of its years as a West London Club like it or not but has it ever been defined what the club stands for and who it represents.

In the old days it was a largely antipodean club and that was the main accusation pointed at it from the North but it had a sense of unity at least amongst the players. As the antipodean influence has waned the club seems unsure of its identity, and for six years had someone else's identity as Harlequins and now seems confused as to what it is and who it wants to attract.

Out of season soccer fans on a jolly
Local residents of Whitton & Twickenham (or Tower Hamlets and Banglatown)
Out of season Rugby Union fans
The transient Antipodean community
Expat Northerners seeking a Rugby League Fix
Anybody who wants a free ticket

Resolve this question and IMO you are a step closer to deciding where the club should go.

It should be the part of London has the best chance in the long run (10 years time to mature - ie when kids have grown up with the tean) to get a strong local (within a radius of 3 miles) following. IMO it should be somewhere with a big population density but no major football or RU team nearby. Leyton, Streatham/Mitcham, Brentford or further East are good candidates