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#61 JohnM

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:15 AM

"exactly" ..isn't that a big word for an Oldham fan?

#62 JohnM

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:15 AM

can i add as well i very rearly have a bad word to say about the RFL.....often backing them to the hilt...



but the current mob are taking us backwards!!



Where have you ever posted anything positive about the RFL?

#63 shrek

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:47 AM

Foxy Bingo a Classy blue chip sponsor added to the Stable.

Out of interest who would you have preferred to have been the "Official Bingo" partner?

Or are none of them classy enough for you? One can only imagine who negative the thread would have been had they turned down this opportunity, no doubt the same knockers would have hopped over the other side of the fence!

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:50 AM

Something must be wrong if the leadership is constantly being attacked and the structure of the game is in a mess, the only people who seem to be happy are; the RFL employees, super league clubs and amateur administrators with egos.

I suspect the leadership of most sporting governing bodies are under attack from some elements they represent at any given time.

The English FA seem to cop plenty for example, been going strong for 150 years, big new top flight TV deal coming into effect next year, plenty of blue chip sponsors on board, recently opened the superb St Georges Park for all national teams to benefit from yet you don't have to look far to find the knockers lining up to critisise them.

#65 shrek

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:05 AM

Even the refs are getting in on the branding - sorry if this has been posted elsewhere.

#66 JohnM

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:11 AM

That is an absolute disgrace, embarrassment, farce, absurdity, joke, mockery and travesty. Our game would be much better off if it had no money at all, and had no one in charge. That way it would take over the world!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

#67 Marauder

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:21 AM

The late Bill Kenney first introduced shirt sponsorship to Moorends many years ago even before pro clubs had seen the method to raise cash, I always remember him saying at the meeting we discussed shirt spomsorship saying, "I don't care if we have Durex on our shirts as long as they are paying for them"

Luckily the Father-in-law of our full-back owned a scrap yard :)
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#68 jannerboyuk

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:28 AM

Even the refs are getting in on the branding - sorry if this has been posted elsewhere.

nice little deal, definitely looking like there is a strategy of multi sponsors to build up cash flow and momentum, the more we have the less likely the sensitive souls fainting onto their chaise longues will complain. Ok maybe not.
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 12:14 PM

Warming to them already

Can our Sports perennial knockers now turn to the Salford thread and find something not uplifting about the good doctor's involvement there ?

Sorry to lower the tone but if this is the perennial knockers, then count me in!!!

Edit. Meant to be that pic there!

Edited by Johnoco, 19 January 2013 - 12:15 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:33 AM

Interesting interview with Dr Marwan Koukash here:

Seems as though he was introduced to rugby league and the Salford situation by Nigel Wood, the person many on here criticise for lack of leadership and strategy.

For all the financial troubles we've had at Wakey, Bradford & Salford recently, what we have seen is money and business acumen from outside the game come in and replace people who had been involved for a long-time and who were clearly out of their depth. Getting the right sort of people running our flagship clubs has to be a priority and we do seem to be slowly getting there.

#71 Just Browny

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:21 PM

Dr Koukash is rapidly becoming one of my favourite people in RL. I just hope he never fancies dipping into a RL messageboard to see what the fans are talking about.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.


#72 keighley

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:03 PM

Interesting interview with Dr Marwan Koukash here: http://youtu.be/YgapApLreGk

Seems as though he was introduced to rugby league and the Salford situation by Nigel Wood, the person many on here criticise for lack of leadership and strategy.

For all the financial troubles we've had at Wakey, Bradford & Salford recently, what we have seen is money and business acumen from outside the game come in and replace people who had been involved for a long-time and who were clearly out of their depth. Getting the right sort of people running our flagship clubs has to be a priority and we do seem to be slowly getting there.



The RFL get criticised a lot and sometimes rightly so but to find this man to recuse Salford as they have done must be praised. Judging from that interview, Dr Koukash seems like a gift from on high for the game in general and Salford in particular. If he gets ownership of the stadium for the club, what a master stroke, before any other team strtengthening oy anything else. If Sale stay, let them pay rent to Salford. Let all the bars and food outlets pour revenue into the club.

I remember the original proposals having retail units built on the site. If that is stiill on the cards, even more revenue. As you say, ther good Doctor seems to be a very, very able businessman and, if he is true to this word, Salford could end up being a big player in SL, self sustaining to boot.

#73 Northern Sol

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:06 PM

Let's not get carried away.


“I was horrified when I first realised the state the club was in,” admitted Koukash, who attended last night’s game with his family and also met representatives from Peel Holdings, who part-own the stadium with Salford City Council.

“The club had been stripped of players and was spending future income. This will not be allowed to happen again.

“I am not a sugar daddy and it is obvious that we need income from outside activities to support this club.



#74 Just Browny

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:09 PM

Let's not get carried away.


Yep, that's exactly what he just said in the interview posted 2/3 posts ago.

I think it's a good thing that he's fully aware of the difficulties and honest about the situation. I'd rather that than him promise to throw a load of money in to plug the gaps without addressing the structural problems.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.


#75 keighley

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:16 PM

Yep, that's exactly what he just said in the interview posted 2/3 posts ago.

I think it's a good thing that he's fully aware of the difficulties and honest about the situation. I'd rather that than him promise to throw a load of money in to plug the gaps without addressing the structural problems.


After Salford, Richard Lewis job is still up for grabs. :)

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:41 PM

Dr Koukash is rapidly becoming one of my favourite people in RL. I just hope he never fancies dipping into a RL messageboard to see what the fans are talking about.


Top man! Dr Koukash comes across very well, he's certainly correct with regards to clubs owning and running their home facilities. If administrated correctly, a club can generate modest capital to support the costs of running the club. My club's board do a fantastic job running Workington Town, luckly we have two key factors in the Speedway tenants rent and the club's popular lottery game; where the majority of members are non-Town fans. Secondly I like Dr Koukash's viewpoint on Salford, initially he see this as a challenge and he certainly appears determined to succeed. Who knows in the future he may even fall in love with Salford Reds and TGG! 

Although Nigel Wood is no Richard Lewis it appears he has been instumental in this potential deal...fairplay to Mr Woods. With regards to sponsors, the sounds coming out of red hall related to Brut and the challenge cup sponsor being a beer company are very promising compared to last year! Before people start to complain with beer sponsors being undesirable; please look to Union's association with Guinness and Heineken plus the FA's partnership with Budweiser.

#77 jannerboyuk

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:04 PM

Seems a very thoughtful bloke. Interesting times
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Crusaders RL to do the double over Widnes and finish five places ahead of them -WRONG
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http://www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/

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#78 jannerboyuk

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:05 PM

Top man! Dr Koukash comes across very well, he's certainly correct with regards to clubs owning and running their home facilities. If administrated correctly, a club can generate modest capital to support the costs of running the club. My club's board do a fantastic job running Workington Town, luckly we have two key factors in the Speedway tenants rent and the club's popular lottery game; where the majority of members are non-Town fans. Secondly I like Dr Koukash's viewpoint on Salford, initially he see this as a challenge and he certainly appears determined to succeed. Who knows in the future he may even fall in love with Salford Reds and TGG! 

Although Nigel Wood is no Richard Lewis it appears he has been instumental in this potential deal...fairplay to Mr Woods. With regards to sponsors, the sounds coming out of red hall related to Brut and the challenge cup sponsor being a beer company are very promising compared to last year! Before people start to complain with beer sponsors being undesirable; please look to Union's association with Guinness and Heineken plus the FA's partnership with Budweiser.

got no problem with a beer sponsor personally but it will impact on the French a bit
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Crusaders RL to do the double over Widnes and finish five places ahead of them -WRONG
Widnes Vikings NOT to dominate rugby league in years to come! STILL TO COME

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#79 keighley

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:58 PM

got no problem with a beer sponsor personally but it will impact on the French a bit


There must be a way around that. All their RU teams play in the Hieneken Cup.

#80 Northern Sol

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 04:32 PM

There must be a way around that. All their RU teams play in the Hieneken Cup.


No, they play in the H-cup.