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So Hock has joined Widnes


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#41 Arch Stanton

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:18 PM

ineresting quote from lenagan that wigan were not prepared to let him go to one of there major competitors
so now we know wigans opinion of widnes

Looking at Wigans squad (especially now) I'd say Widnes are their major competitors :lol:

#42 chuffer

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:26 PM

I've no problem with that quote. Wigan are expecting to challenge for honours, Widnes aren't. Not going to read too much into it, people get offended for nowt.

Good signing for us obviously.


Exactly.....I did chuckle when I read that but then thought....."fair enough....."

#43 Terry Mullaney

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:30 PM

He's probably heard what Tomkins is getting paid
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:58 PM

Gaz hock is without doubt 1 of the 3 best back row forwards in the super league along with Manu and westwood, if it is to do with money then Wigan are there own enemy's in not paying him and rewarding him with a fantastic yr e had last season, good luck to the kid I say well done gaz go and tear super league up again and stick it to the pie eaters!!!!!

#45 Futtocks

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:02 PM

He was on Radio 5 and the gist of his statement was "I've got several mates at Widnes and.... errr, I've got several mates at Widnes".

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#46 brooza

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:04 PM

He was on Radio 5 and the gist of his statement was "I've got several mates at Widnes and.... errr, I've got several mates at Widnes".

And none left in Wigan?

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#47 OMEGA

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:14 PM

I'm not suggesting that IL has lied but equally Hock could truthfully state his side of the argument and throw a completely different context onto why he wants out!

I'm no big fan of Hock and I love to watch Wigan so theres no agenda from me.
I'm not going to demonise Gareth Hock based on A very one sided and seemingly emotional press release from IL.

I have to wonder what's been going on that makes a Wigan lad who's been at Wigan since he was about 12 suddenly say he never wants to play for Wigan ever again. Please don't throw he got turned down for a pay rise at me because it doesn't add up, not to me anyway.

Rumours abound that Hock and Wayne have been at each others throats since Hock returned and it's gt worse since SW became Head Coach. Same sources are telling me that a number of players aren't happy and one of those is Sam Tomkins.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:18 PM

If Wigan have a successful season now it could set them up for year's get the kind of club spirit they have at Leeds
but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:20 PM

maybe he was due some kind of blood test at wigan :(
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#50 Futtocks

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:23 PM

If Wigan have a successful season now it could set them up for year's get the kind of club spirit they have at Leeds

So who'll get the No.14 shirt now, I wonder?
Wigan Warriors 2013 Squad List
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Darrell Goulding
4. Jack Hughes*
5. Pat Richards
6. Blake Green.
7. Matthew Smith*
8. Epalahame Lauaki*
9. Michael McIlorum
10. Lee Mossop
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Liam Farrell*
13. Sean O'Loughlin
14. Vacated by Gareth Hock
15. Ben Flower*
16. Chris Tuson*
17. Iain Thornley*
18. Wigan Fans
19. Paul Prescott*
20. Gil Dudson*
21. Scott Taylor
22. Anthony Gelling*
23. Logan Tomkins*
24. Sam Powell*
25. Rhodri Lloyd*
26. Dom Crosby*

Edited by Futtocks, 22 January 2013 - 02:24 PM.

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#51 hindle xiii

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:24 PM

So who'll be No.14 now, I wonder?

I don't think anyone can once they've been submitted, blank for the year.

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#52 OMEGA

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:30 PM

So who'll get the No.14 shirt now, I wonder?
Wigan Warriors 2013 Squad List
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Darrell Goulding
4. Jack Hughes Out George Carmont
5. Pat Richards
6. Blake Green. Out Brett Finch
7. Matthew Smith Out Thomas Leuleuai
8. Epalahame Lauaki Out Geoff Lima
9. Michael McIlorum
10. Lee Mossop
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Liam Farrell
13. Sean O'Loughlin
14. Vacant* Out Gareth Hock
15. Ben Flower
16. Chris Tuson
17. Iain Thornley
18. Wigan Fans
19. Paul Prescott
20. Gil Dudson
21. Scott Taylor Out Stuart Fielden
22. Anthony Gelling
23. Logan Tomkins
24. Sam Powell
25. Rhodri Lloyd
26. Dom Crosby



#53 Hullfan

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:37 PM

Manfredi ????????

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:57 PM

It sounds like we had no choice.
As an eternal optimist, I could just about see us competing for the top if Hughes develops and the pack stayed fit - without Hock we're 5th to 8th.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:02 PM

It sounds like we had no choice.
As an eternal optimist, I could just about see us competing for the top if Hughes develops and the pack stayed fit - without Hock we're 5th to 8th.

Do you think he makes that much of a difference to the team?
Wigan seemed to do well enough without him at various times last season.
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#56 Amber Avenger

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:17 PM

Do you think he makes that much of a difference to the team?
Wigan seemed to do well enough without him at various times last season.


I agree. Whilst Hock has improved as a player since his return, looking at the squad list above they should still comfortably finish in the Top 4, probably higher.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:38 PM

Gaz hock is without doubt 1 of the 3 best back row forwards in the super league along with Manu and westwood, if it is to do with money then Wigan are there own enemy's in not paying him and rewarding him with a fantastic yr e had last season, good luck to the kid I say well done gaz go and tear super league up again and stick it to the pie eaters!!!!!


Nonsense!!

If you are all in favour of players holding clubs to ransom, after they had stood by him during his two year ban, even increasing his contract during that period to help him out of self-inflicted difficulties, then many would be wishing such players sign for Hull in the future so that you can gain maximum enjoyment - while it lasts that is.
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#58 Finn

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:04 PM

Where does this leave Wigan. On paper, looking like weakest squad for last few years. Not much in way of depth. What do Wigan fans think? A huge amount of pressure on untried combo of Blake Green/Matty Smith.


I think we're short of cover at 6,7 and 9. Not sure how much of Hock's salary Widnes will be paying and if this will release any cap space for later in the season.

#59 Brigg Rover

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:14 PM

Nonsense!!

If you are all in favour of players holding clubs to ransom, after they had stood by him during his two year ban, even increasing his contract during that period to help him out of self-inflicted difficulties, then many would be wishing such players sign for Hull in the future so that you can gain maximum enjoyment - while it lasts that is.


Look at FC's signing history and it will tell you that that is exactly the type of player they would sign!

Listening to Hock's interview on Sky Sports today he sounded exactly like he behaves, stupid. Any attempts at rational thoughts as to why he has done what he has done really do not apply.

#60 RSN

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:16 PM

Wigans decisions seem pretty reasonable. If he doesn't want too play for them send him too a club who's only time they're near them in the table is right at the very start of the season.




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