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2013 Conference Youth League?


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#1 LordCharles

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:24 PM

Any ideas on what is happening with this competition anyone?

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

Still up in the air.

Basically they wanted one league (East and West leagues combined) but the funding for the coach journeys has been pulled. This in effect would mean more coach journeys, longer distances and no money towards it.

The interested clubs are still tring to come to a solution.

In my opinion the RFL/NCL or whover is actually in charge should be pumping money into the CYL to make it the flagship league for under 18s like it used to be and preparing lads for the step up to open age or professional ranks (long coach journeys, tough away games etc.).

There is a meeting soon to try and finalise the league I believe.

#3 bowes

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:05 PM

I think with the loss of SL U18 you're right as the standard will be much higher they should look at travel. This loss of travel funding hammered the Conference South as well so it's a big issue.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:42 PM

are clubs not better putting there u18s in regional leagues, ie- yorkshire nwc? looking at the youth league last year teams were going weeks without playing games and some teams folded due to this, surely its better playing week in week out against local sides

#5 LordCharles

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:02 PM

The CYL (West/East) last year had a significant effect on the regional leagues, if they don't move forward with CYL then the regional leagues will be very strong, if they do then it will again have some effect on the strength of regional based competition.

What the RFL want, what they can support administratively and financially, against what they can realistically provide and achieve are very very different.

To have a flagship competition at any age level it needs to be the very best in every department and create an environment/competition that both clubs and players strive to be part of, which given the current climate the RFL seem very unlikely to be able to fulfil in every department.

FWIW............it would be far better to have strong regional leagues/competitions and a well organised prestige National Cup Competition at U18's and forget any form of CYL until such time as it can be promoted, administered, funded and delivered as a proper Flagship competition that has a considerable shelf life and worth, as opposed to a start up comp that fails to fulfil a season properly for all teams concerned within it.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:14 PM

You're probably right unless they're going to probably fund an elite national division. Hemel are switching to running U20 and I guess Gateshead and North Wales could either follow suit or enter the Yorkshire and NW competitions respectively. The 2 regional divisions of the CYL were other than that a NW and a Yorkshire competition anyway.

#7 LordCharles

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:01 PM

Just over 4 weeks now to the supposed scheduled start to the community season and still no decisions on if there will be or will not be a Conference Youth League, what teams are or are not playing in the Regional Leagues such as NWC at U18's, resulting in no Leagues formed yet and no fixtures allocated, but the sport is safe at Grass Roots level................you really have to wonder!

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:51 PM

Email gone out today the CYL will not be happening, reasons not given but i suspect its becuase nobody knew what was happening.

It will be re introduced next season under alternative guidence

#9 LordCharles

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 07:18 AM

Another one season wonder that was nothing but a failure, but the RFL have got everything under control..............

The only saving grace is the fact, as always, that the VOLUNTEERS who RUN the Regional Leagues will again be on hand to pick up the peices and deliver a strong competition at Youth level once more................when will the RFL ever learn?

#10 TaxiEgg

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 06:51 PM

And spot the major flaw in not running the league <_<

#11 Marauder

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:26 PM

If the RFL was providing a service would you honestly do business with them ?
Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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#12 Marauder

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:27 PM

And spot the major flaw in not running the league <_<

Probably been done so the U18's can again prop up the summer game while players are away on holiday etc
Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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#13 TaxiEgg

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:14 AM

Where do the Yorkshire teams play ,are the Youth in Yorkshire a Winter based program ?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:29 PM

I represented one of the clubs over the last couple of months who have been at meetings with cyl reps in trying to put together a strong conference youth league which would not cost the clubs a fortune.Unfortunatly this was not possible
Option 1 from rfl was a single league of 11 teams from west and east plus north wales.Average cost to each club of around 3K on transport.
Option 2 proposed by clubs from west of pennines,was to have a west and east division and invite in more clubs,transport costs -nil.

Unfortunatly interest dwindled to 9 clubs and the rfl asked those nine clubs to vote on having a single league.
5 were from lancs,3 from hull/yorkshire plus north wales.
Our club along with others decided to withdraw our interest in nyl and apply to nwc to give a stronger competition with no transport costs.

#15 LordCharles

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:27 PM

Whilst transport costs are an issue for all clubs I don't think they were or are the only factor in the demise of the CYL in its entirety as many clubs/teams had issues last season that had nothing to do with transport or the cost of it, with some even folding as a result.

Regional competition is a far better option all round until such time as a stable format can be produced to provide a pathway for the teams who have earned the right to play at what will be the highest level of U18's Community club competition, taking applications is not the correct way IMHO.

A format with a structured and solid base needs to be in place that will allow through natural progression the top 10 - 12 teams in the UK to compete in a Genuine National Conference Youth League.

The structure/system is relatively straightforward, but would need regional leagues and their member clubs to all buy in to it before it could be proposed and then delivered as a flagship competition Nationally at the U18's age group, until then we will have to either remain within a regionalised league structure and competition or wait until the next half baked proposal is put forward from the brain surgeons at the top!

#16 Marauder

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:44 PM

Whilst transport costs are an issue for all clubs I don't think they were or are the only factor in the demise of the CYL in its entirety as many clubs/teams had issues last season that had nothing to do with transport or the cost of it, with some even folding as a result.

Regional competition is a far better option all round until such time as a stable format can be produced to provide a pathway for the teams who have earned the right to play at what will be the highest level of U18's Community club competition, taking applications is not the correct way IMHO.

A format with a structured and solid base needs to be in place that will allow through natural progression the top 10 - 12 teams in the UK to compete in a Genuine National Conference Youth League.

The structure/system is relatively straightforward, but would need regional leagues and their member clubs to all buy in to it before it could be proposed and then delivered as a flagship competition Nationally at the U18's age group, until then we will have to either remain within a regionalised league structure and competition or wait until the next half baked proposal is put forward from the brain surgeons at the top!

So if the CYL gets ofF the ground in the future and at the time the top 4 clubs in the regional leagues are from regional sides would they get invited into the CYL?

Edited by Marauder, 01 February 2013 - 02:44 PM.

Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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