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#1 bowes

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:23 PM

Just seen this on Facebook:

Birmingham Bulldogs
Coventry Bears A
Coventry Dragons
Telford Raiders
NEW Ravens
Nottingham Outlaws A
Northampton Demons A
Leicester Storm A
Sleaford Spartans
North Derbyshire Chargers

#2 tim2

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:35 PM

We never signed up for Premier!!!!

I hope that this is split regionally otherwise we'll need to reconsider. To be honest, I'd rather this had been put out officially to clubs with an explanation rather than on facebook. I'm now expecting some calls asking why we're in a division with so much travel.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:10 PM

My guess is that there will be a 13 game schedule where clubs play their half of the division twice and the other half once?

I'd have gone with signing Leamington and Derby up and just simple west midlands and east midlands to reduce the travel burden.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:27 PM

We never signed up for Premier!!!!

I hope that this is split regionally otherwise we'll need to reconsider. To be honest, I'd rather this had been put out officially to clubs with an explanation rather than on facebook. I'm now expecting some calls asking why we're in a division with so much travel.


Its exactly what was proposed at the meeting, what was sent out by email and what you confirmed your club would be entering.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:29 PM

My guess is that there will be a 13 game schedule where clubs play their half of the division twice and the other half once?

I'd have gone with signing Leamington and Derby up and just simple west midlands and east midlands to reduce the travel burden.


But its not fantasy league manager, its about getting games played and neither can commit to the format. Ideal isnt always Ideal.

#6 Northern Sol

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

It's very large for the Premier. Is there going to be a Division One with so many clubs seemingly committed to Prem?

#7 bowes

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

Surprised by Leamington.

I'm guessing the difference to the meeting is just one of branding as one premier division of 10 looks where not everyone plays home and away is more prestigious looking than division 1 west and east with cross division fixtures?

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:49 PM

It's very large for the Premier. Is there going to be a Division One with so many clubs seemingly committed to Prem?

Last I heard there was going to be a merit league with about eight clubs though I don't know if the final line up is confirmed. It was quite West Midlands centred

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:13 PM

It's very large for the Premier. Is there going to be a Division One with so many clubs seemingly committed to Prem?


Yes the Merit League will underpin this. With the two teams moving to Conference South from last year's Premier line up, this means a very balanced league and plenty of evenly matched fixtures.

The plan was always for one division to be played for, with teams playing the majority of fixtures within their East / West split and a couple of cross-regional games. The highest division in the region is always the Premier league.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:51 PM

Before people start to comment on the demise of the Leamington Royals :rolleyes: we are stepping down a level to get our house in order ready for 2014. We have a new committee this season and are moving to a new ground (away from RU). We are not dropping off the map we will be back with a bang post world cup. Looking forward to a trip to Derby in 2013, we havent played up there since loosing to NDC in the 2009 playoff semi final.

Midlands Entry (merit) League is looking like - Leamington Royals, Derby City, Coventry Warriors, Coventry Dragons A, Wolverhampton...and hopefully a few others ala Telford A etc.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:59 PM

Yes the Merit League will underpin this. With the two teams moving to Conference South from last year's Premier line up, this means a very balanced league and plenty of evenly matched fixtures.

Yeah I'd expect Birmingham and Telford to be slightly stronger than the others but not by a lot so should be pretty close

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:12 PM

Yes the Merit League will underpin this. With the two teams moving to Conference South from last year's Premier line up, this means a very balanced league and plenty of evenly matched fixtures.

The plan was always for one division to be played for, with teams playing the majority of fixtures within their East / West split and a couple of cross-regional games. The highest division in the region is always the Premier league.


I'd always thought that there would be a merit league but the three division structure - Prem, Div one, Div two seems to have been abandoned.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:40 PM

Yes, the two leading teams have moved to CL South and Glos Warriors have returned to West of England, so the 5 clubs that played Prem became 2.

9 clubs in Div 1 last year, Wolverhampton and Leamington will play in Merit League / Division 2 leaving 7.

The 9 clubs joined by Chargers brings it up to 10. All are much more evenly matched and its impossible to tier the comp to be a) meaningful or B) geographically possible.

#14 Northern Sol

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:41 PM

Glos in the West of England makes sense.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:51 AM

Glos in the West of England makes sense.

Yeah the All Golds Premier is probably a similar strength to midlands premier so no point the Warriors travelling

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:54 AM

Yes, the two leading teams have moved to CL South and Glos Warriors have returned to West of England, so the 5 clubs that played Prem became 2.

9 clubs in Div 1 last year, Wolverhampton and Leamington will play in Merit League / Division 2 leaving 7.

The 9 clubs joined by Chargers brings it up to 10. All are much more evenly matched and its impossible to tier the comp to be a) meaningful or B) geographically possible.

I don't think there's a problem of the premier division being too big this year. I think it was instead too small last year (by necessity of the high standard of Leicester and Northampton) and even then Coventry Bears A should have been division 1 IMO and we needed a non midlands club to even make 5.

Edited by bowes, 25 January 2013 - 07:55 AM.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:44 PM

Glos in the West of England makes sense.


What is the West of England set up looking like then?
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#18 bowes

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:48 PM

What is the West of England set up looking like then?

On the Bristol website says it will be: Bristol Sonics A, Gloucestershire Warriors, Cheltenham Old Patesians, Oxford Cavaliers, Somerset Vikings, Swindon St George

Apparently it's called the All Golds premier.

Only really London and the South East to be confirmed from England now.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 12:25 AM

'All Golds Premier'?? I like it. Has a nice ring to it. Are we the 'Premier' in the West of England? :D

Going to be a bloody tough season as there will be six strong teams to battle it out. However having seen Swindon's fixtures I'm well up for it! I know its still a fair way away but: Bring it on! :cool:

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:06 AM

Any news of a South West League?





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