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#161 Les Tonks Sidestep

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:17 AM

'Cos they were the key players in a team which put 60 on our players last week.


So your best squad for ages is poop then? If these 'fringe' players were so instrumental in the destruction York last week it's still likely to be a long hard seasoneven with them in the side. Let's hope they're commited to the cause eh?

And I see 3 contracted players have decided to leave too. Work commitments of course ;)

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:22 AM

So your best squad for ages is poop then? If these 'fringe' players were so instrumental in the destruction York last week it's still likely to be a long hard seasoneven with them in the side. Let's hope they're commited to the cause eh?

And I see 3 contracted players have decided to leave too. Work commitments of course ;)


That's the problem with this system les a lot of players will want to leave if they are not getting a game through this system. I fear before the seasons over a lot will leave clubs through out the season and then that's when the system will become 6 DR players can play and so on till the link up clubs are full of them because they won't have many players left.It makes me laugh when you see fans of these clubs hoping a certain player will be playing for their squad this weekend from the SL clubs.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:25 AM

So your best squad for ages is poop then? If these 'fringe' players were so instrumental in the destruction York last week it's still likely to be a long hard seasoneven with them in the side. Let's hope they're commited to the cause eh?

And I see 3 contracted players have decided to leave too. Work commitments of course ;)


Our "best squad for ages" isn't really saying a lot now is it. I'd say it's the best squad we've had since 2004, now that was a good team. Seem to remember putting the Mighty Fev to the sword 4 times in that season, even though we were in the division below.

And the 3 players who've left haven't trained with us this season and 2 of them have never even donned the shirt, so you can hardly blame DR for that, but I'm sure you'll find a way.

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#164 Robin Evans

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:35 AM

Our "best squad for ages" isn't really saying a lot now is it. I'd say it's the best squad we've had since 2004, now that was a good team. Seem to remember putting the Mighty Fev to the sword 4 times in that season, even though we were in the division below.

And the 3 players who've left haven't trained with us this season and 2 of them have never even donned the shirt, so you can hardly blame DR for that, but I'm sure you'll find a way.

Well you can Gav.
My mate was talking to a prominent player of a CC club who have aligned themselves with a club for a bucket full of DR players.
He suggests that the signed on players are more than dischuffed with the situation. Not knowing if they will be selected or displaced by a DR player. Not knowing if they might play to get a win bonus etc?? That player went on to suggest that at his club at least, it is seriously affecting the morale of the signed on squad from that club.
It doesn't take much more for a player who knows he might be subject to being replaced by a DR player to say "sod it, I've had enough"!
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:50 AM

Well you can Gav.
My mate was talking to a prominent player of a CC club who have aligned themselves with a club for a bucket full of DR players.
He suggests that the signed on players are more than dischuffed with the situation. Not knowing if they will be selected or displaced by a DR player. Not knowing if they might play to get a win bonus etc?? That player went on to suggest that at his club at least, it is seriously affecting the morale of the signed on squad from that club.
It doesn't take much more for a player who knows he might be subject to being replaced by a DR player to say "sod it, I've had enough"!


I've not said that isn't going to happen, in fact I reckon it will, but that has happened to us every year with players leaving as they aren't getting a game - regardless of if its been a DR player who's taken their place. Sadly it's a fact of life when players are on match terms only, I could name 20 players who've left the club after not getting to play. It's just not the case with the 3 players who've left already.

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#166 oldrover

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:00 AM

well the season is upon us, and we will find out, i still fear the worst.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:50 AM

What are you worried about, OR ?

Nobody's tied into this. If it's not working, it'll stop happening.
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#168 Gav Wilson

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:54 AM

Well you can Gav.
My mate was talking to a prominent player of a CC club who have aligned themselves with a club for a bucket full of DR players.
He suggests that the signed on players are more than dischuffed with the situation. Not knowing if they will be selected or displaced by a DR player. Not knowing if they might play to get a win bonus etc?? That player went on to suggest that at his club at least, it is seriously affecting the morale of the signed on squad from that club.
It doesn't take much more for a player who knows he might be subject to being replaced by a DR player to say "sod it, I've had enough"!


Then I would say their attitude is not good enough for this level of rugby.


Nobody's tied into this. If it's not working, it'll stop happening.


Yep, this.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:25 PM

Then I would say their attitude is not good enough for this level of rugby.

Fair enough... I wasn't looking for an analysis of suitability - or competence.
I'm just commenting on some of the players at this level, one from your own club, who maybe affected by the concept of Dual Registering players.
Their morale is affected. As will be their performance.
If you thinks that's a manageable risk, fair do's. Not a problem. Thankfully my club hasn't gone down that route.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:07 PM

to be honest i'm tired of going over this. we all have our own thoughts. my worry is that the worst case scenario will become reality. best thing now is to wait and see.
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#171 thundergaz

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:10 PM

to be honest i'm tired of going over this. we all have our own thoughts. my worry is that the worst case scenario will become reality. best thing now is to wait and see.


I agree OR but it won't effect us really unless there is no teams to play. Then we have a problem but I know what you mean it's a recipe for disaster but time will tell if me and you are right or if gav and a few more are right.

#172 Les Tonks Sidestep

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:42 AM

Well you can Gav.
My mate was talking to a prominent player of a CC club who have aligned themselves with a club for a bucket full of DR players.
He suggests that the signed on players are more than dischuffed with the situation. Not knowing if they will be selected or displaced by a DR player. Not knowing if they might play to get a win bonus etc?? That player went on to suggest that at his club at least, it is seriously affecting the morale of the signed on squad from that club.
It doesn't take much more for a player who knows he might be subject to being replaced by a DR player to say "sod it, I've had enough"!


Tommy Haughey said exactly the same things in a YEP interview a couple of years ago.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 08:33 AM

Fair enough... I wasn't looking for an analysis of suitability - or competence.
I'm just commenting on some of the players at this level, one from your own club, who maybe affected by the concept of Dual Registering players.
Their morale is affected. As will be their performance.
If you thinks that's a manageable risk, fair do's. Not a problem. Thankfully my club hasn't gone down that route.


And this is indeed the point. B)
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:28 PM

Well that didn't take long for clubs to abuse the system.

Paul Wood and 6 other Warrington players in Swinton's squad for Sunday.

So much for my optimism...! <_<
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:29 PM

Well you can Gav.
My mate was talking to a prominent player of a CC club who have aligned themselves with a club for a bucket full of DR players.
He suggests that the signed on players are more than dischuffed with the situation. Not knowing if they will be selected or displaced by a DR player. Not knowing if they might play to get a win bonus etc?? That player went on to suggest that at his club at least, it is seriously affecting the morale of the signed on squad from that club.
It doesn't take much more for a player who knows he might be subject to being replaced by a DR player to say "sod it, I've had enough"!

There is an answer to that Robin. Give those DR players, no doubt on more cash than the regulars, plenty of "hospital" passes. Make them work for a living.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:41 PM

Well that didn't take long for clubs to abuse the system.

Paul Wood and 6 other Warrington players in Swinton's squad for Sunday.

So much for my optimism...! <_<


I don't like the system, however if we're to have it, there should be an age limit as well as a number limit. If we're going to use this to "develop" youth, then let's at least limit it to young players. :rolleyes:

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

Well that didn't take long for clubs to abuse the system.

Paul Wood and 6 other Warrington players in Swinton's squad for Sunday.

So much for my optimism...! <_<


Our league is going to become a joke. This totally undermines our league for me. Paul wood and Tyrone mcarthy playing for swinton who next briers and Morley? I'm sure more teams will follow suit over the season. So it definitely looks like Warrington reserves vs Widnes reserves this weekend then. Along with a lot of other SL reserve squads and they wonder why people are not going into grounds to watch teams. Can you imagine if Fev get go the GF against one of these feeder clubs it will be Fev against a SL reserve team or as I'm thinking first team. What a complete joke this is becoming rant over I'm off for a lie down 😃😃😃

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:53 PM

Our league is going to become a joke. This totally undermines our league for me. Paul wood and Tyrone mcarthy playing for swinton who next briers and Morley? I'm sure more teams will follow suit over the season. So it definitely looks like Warrington reserves vs Widnes reserves this weekend then. Along with a lot of other SL reserve squads and they wonder why people are not going into grounds to watch teams. Can you imagine if Fev get go the GF against one of these feeder clubs it will be Fev against a SL reserve team or as I'm thinking first team. What a complete joke this is becoming rant over I'm off for a lie down ������������������


You are there again Gaz with your Widnes Reserves crack!!! Widnes have offered Town the use of THREE players this weekend and at this moment in time according to the Widnes website Town are only using ONE. Look around at other clubs and see how many they are using,

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:29 PM

You are there again Gaz with your Widnes Reserves crack!!! Widnes have offered Town the use of THREE players this weekend and at this moment in time according to the Widnes website Town are only using ONE. Look around at other clubs and see how many they are using,


Is that the point though? One is too many IMO and i see our league becoming a SL reserve league in the next four seasons. I personally didn't want SL with the mine field it is at the minute but now I will be glad to get out of this league and then we can have a reserve team in the champ. ( I am totally against it but it seems the norm now and I would rather have a feeder club than be a feeder club our selves).

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:08 PM

Week one and Swinton don't break the rules but is this why the partnerships were brought to be using experienced players of this quality or was it to bring youth through at a better standard
Would of liked to of been at these meeting to see what was actually said and how they said they would run them






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