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[duffymoon]

Not sure Al but dress it up however you want and potentially we could be fielding eleven Warrington players in our line up .Its the feeder club system so prevalent in Australia and to me my club is helping promote it and I don't like it.

[DemonUK]

Couldn't give you the Swinton squad, but I could give you the Wire Reserves lineup

[marshy1]

I know this Dave but the fact of the matter is unless we find a sugar daddy with a very large pocket we will always be looking at journey men players or taking players on one season deals which seems the norm at Championship level.
In an ideal world we would be running an A team and allow us to accommodate our own players but sadly for many reasons already rightly highlighted by Phil we can't.
I admire both Phil's yours and any other fan who stand for their principles.

[Keith T]

Mark and marshy1 I think you are both either being very naive (which I don't really believe) or you are choosing to be rather obtuse about the thrux of the problem.

Mark, you are quite right this is about Swinton signing a number of young lads but until this week they were all contracted to Warrington in Super League. I believe one of them, maybe more, only signed a 3 year contract with Warrington in November!!!! Now we are all to believe that these are genuine signings by your club who most of you are agreeing don't have two pennies spare to rub together. Do you for one minute think that these signings haven't got a number of conditions attached to them about these players returning to Warrington after this season is over?

marshy1, your club could have loaned players from various clubs but you would still only have been able to play no more than 5 in any matchday 17. That is why your club and Warrington have started this charade of "signing" these 6 young lads, i.e. to get round the loan process as laid down in the rules. Everyone, including you and Mark, I suspect know this to be the case and although you may feel that there is nothing wrong in what has been done it is the harm it will do to the game of rugby league for the future, not just at Swinton, that we all should be worrying about.

[Paul Davidson]

I can understand the concerns about the system overall which has been put in place by the RFL, I would love to see 13 home-grown M27 lads on the pitch at all times, but why would any supporter stop supporting and watching the team they love because the club, as a professional club, are the club ahead of the game?
I'm sure, had Swinton sat back and let other clubs take the lead in this latest RFL meddling saga, we'd have had the same people on the forum slating the club for not being proactive.
If you don't like the rules the governing body of a sport set then have a go at the governing body, don't punish the club you support and love!

[Bryce]

Keith, look at the Higson transfer last season, it's just the same and no issues were raised then at all.

[marshy1]

Exactly right Paul.

[duffymoon]

I'm not too sure that the governing body envisaged the rules being utilised quite like Swinton Lions have done.As I've said I'm very passionate about my club and after this it would feel as though I was supporting something I didn't believe in.

[duffymoon]

Why is the Higson situation the same? Presumably he received a better offer at Leigh this year.

[marshy1]

The same rules are available to every other club which makes it a level playing field,if some clubs don't want to take up the option that is their choice, as a club we have done nothing more than utilise the rules as laid out by the RFL.
As Paul says, anyone's gripe should be aimed at the RFL. Can we please now get on with some rugby time to set off to watch The Lions.

[Bryce]

Because he's a Leigh lad who was signed on by Leigh. He wasn't going to get a starting spot at Leigh (behind a Warrington DR player might I add, and a Saints DR player the year before that), so he signed for Swinton. Impressed in half a season and Leigh had him back.

[duffymoon]

If this is how the rules are meant t

I can understand the concerns about the system overall which has been put in place by the RFL, I would love to see 13 home-grown M27 lads on the pitch at all times, but why would any supporter stop supporting and watching the team they love because the club, as a professional club, are the club ahead of the game?
I'm sure, had Swinton sat back and let other clubs take the lead in this latest RFL meddling saga, we'd have had the same people on the forum slating the club for not being proactive.
If you don't like the rules the governing body of a sport set then have a go at the governing body, don't punish the club you support and love!

. Well if this is called being ahead of the game and this philosophy is what theRFL want to promote then I don't want to be part of it thank you very much.

[Bryce]

It's basically because the majority are from Warrington. If they were spread out across the sl teams we'd have no problem. Ashall, Saints-Swinton-Fax
Higson, Leigh-Swinton-Leigh
Watson, Salford-Swinton-Leigh-Widnes Hawkyard, Bradford-Swinton
Hurst, Warrington-Swinton-Broncos
Armstrong, Saints-Swinton-Sheffield

This isn't a new thing, there's even more, Craig Ashall, Lee Patterson, Andy Coley, Lee Marsh, Phil Joseph, the list is endless.

[Derwent]

Looks like you'll have to sign Briers, Westwood, Morley and both Monaghans next week.........

[marshy1]

Possibly true on that showing. Well done Workington, a really solid performance from your boys.

[mark richardson]

Best team won without a doubt
Well done town

[Blue Monkey]

Looks like you'll have to sign Briers, Westwood, Morley and both Monaghans next week.........

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[Blue Monkey]

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[Keith T]

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[Derwent]

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