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[LOYALION]

You should have bowed to Salford not Wire,that way selling the soul of the club would have been harder to justify.

We need two full time tens and let the rest partner with the SL clubs to stay alive in a dead league of their own.

RIP a once proud Swinton

What a bore. Leigh got any DR players this year? I seem to remember you having your fair share in the last two seasons. Didn't mind it then eh?

[juliancaine]

Rip swinton lions the DR chickens have come home to roost. DR coach now what next a move to the halliwell jones.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...league/21829395

[marshy1]

Julian please explain how he is a dual reg coach.?

[mark richardson]

Julian please explain how he is a dual reg coach.?

Alan I hope you're not holding your breath for a sensible reply!

[LOYALION]

Alan I hope you're not holding your breath for a sensible reply!

Ask all the '1' Warrington fans who agree with him!

[frankb]

What a bore. Leigh got any DR players this year? I seem to remember you having your fair share in the last two seasons. Didn't mind it then eh?

NO and. you really are missing the point imo. Twinning is not DR anyways. It is shortsighted and the route your club has gone down puts the whole pro game at risk and your club will not prosper because of this .and you must know that.

How can you compare DC which was intended to improve younger promising players with this Twinning route to oblivion ?

[LOYALION]

No it is not my ideal choice for my club. Nor was selling our ground, moving out of the area or having a succession of rented grounds but that is what we have done to survive and we are still here. You are missing the point. We now have better training facilities and a squad or players. It keeps us in the game for now. To have refused them would have meant total oblivion in Champ 1! If D/R is amended next season then we will play to those rules. You are only here today because you faced your own troubles when you had to and came through them.
The whole pro game at risk? Does that include the greedy clubs who keep you out of the Super League or the greedy clubs who want everything to suit them in Championship? I didn't hear many objections when the RFL decided to bring in a third tier and pitch once noble clubs in with the likes of Oxford and Hemel (no disrespect intended to those clubs). As long as it wasn't you it's ok but would you have complained if it was the season you finished bottom of the second tier?
No, don't come to me about being short sighted!

[frankb]

Oh dear me. You really don't get it. This Twinning is unsustainable for your club and for Pro RL.

Your club is being used by Warrington to show up what a daft idea twinning is. Why do you think Warrington voted against it.

Seems to me you don;t relish relegation so rather than your club developing its' own players.you are prepared to condone the devalueing of the league you are currently in at the expense of ever getting better as a club in your own right.

How can being Warrington reserves ever increase your clubs fan base ?

We Leigh fans are already facing a slow lingering death as a club because of licenscing. We have 'as a sport' got to get back to a game where there is a possibility of progression. Licenscing and Twinning.has destroyed that if it they continue with this stupidity and in the long or short term it is a suicide note for pro RL...

The RFL is currently being run by morons

[mark richardson]

You really don't get it and you're missing the point are two perfect ways to start a sentence intended to make the reader do just that.
What you mean is "why dont you agree with me im right? "

[DemonUK]

Of course Gary Chambers has 'left' Warrington.

See thread title. You are just puppets in Warringtons mission to prove how ridiculous twinning agreements are.

No delight at this from me, just very very sad.

[Little Lion Man]

If Swinton Lions are dead and gone (this thread dates from back to 3 Feb) then it is time to pay your respects, bury the corpse and move on.....

Life is for living and obsession with things gone is not healthy for you all.

Maybe Swinton should have appointed JulianCaine or Frank B as coach. As necromancers they have done a fine job of bringing a dead thread back to life, perhaps they could do the same for the corpse of Swinton RLFC

[LOYALION]

If Swinton Lions are dead and gone (this thread dates from back to 3 Feb) then it is time to pay your respects, bury the corpse and move on.....

Life is for living and obsession with things gone is not healthy for you all.

Maybe Swinton should have appointed JulianCaine or Frank B as coach. As necromancers they have done a fine job of bringing a dead thread back to life, perhaps they could do the same for the corpse of Swinton RLFC

"Necromancer" used in a RL thread......hats off to you mate!

[Paul Davidson]

The RFL is currently being run by morons

I think that's something that will probably unite everyone on here, well those who support clubs outside SL at least......although your use of the word "currently" may only be accepted if that means the last 20 years!

[Jonty]

I'm usually a defender of the RFL, but I've real doubts on dual registration. The concept has value, but in reality it isn't working. Hats off to clubs like Halifax and Fev who have turned their back on it. It's interesting to see what John Whaling, the current RFL President tweeted about Chambers' appointment last night:

John Whaling ‏@JohnWhaling
Not surprising that Swinton have picked a coach from Warrington, at least he will know the players #rugbyleague

At a community and participation level the RFL has a pretty good reputation as a governing body. It's when it comes to the professional game that there are challenges. I also think that it's wrong to point the finger at Richard Lewis, who oversaw a ten-year period of growth and stability in all areas of the game. Lewis was clearly a leader that unified the sport, and whilst he was the architect of licensing (which I am big supporter of, but recognise that it is unpopular with many), he clearly restricted the ability of clubs to do their own thing as they would do pre-2002.

The majority of blame for this lies with the clubs themselves - both Championship and Super League. Too many clubs in the Championships are poorly governed and unfortunately it leaves them vulnerable to this type of situation. Too many clubs lack ambition. Too many clubs cannot see further than being pot hunters and living with short-term goals.

It will be interesting to see if Brian Barwick, as the new RFL Chairman, can fill the leadership void that has appeared in the past couple of years, although he is only in a part-time role of several days per month. I see that Roger Draper has left the LTA. Draper, as a proven sports administrator at the highest level (former Sport England CEO, LTA boss) would be the ideal person to lead rugby league in my opinion. He is almost the obvious choice that would appease both the traditionalist and expansionist wings of the game. A proven sports leader, but hailing from a rugby league background.

Edited by Jonty, 19 March 2013 - 11:46 AM.

[PhillH]

I see that Roger Draper has left the LTA. Draper, as a proven sports administrator at the highest level (former Sport England CEO, LTA boss) would be the ideal person to lead rugby league in my opinion. He is almost the obvious choice that would appease both the traditionalist and expansionist wings of the game. A proven sports leader, but hailing from a rugby league background.

Interesting suggestion! As well as having played tennis for GB at amateur level, Roger Draper is actually a former RL professional, he played for Hull. And also....a former teammate of mine, at Loughborough University - including when we beat Wath Brow Hornets in the BARLA National Cup.

[Barnie]

I love it how we get trolls from other rugby league clubs coming on here and having a go at us likes its our fault. we do not run the club. the club tell us nothing. we have no say in how we approach dr, twinning, the price of tickets, what stands we sit in, the colours we play in, or our manager. we just support the club.

get over it fools.

[duffymoon]

Yes but we should have more of a say because without fans there is no club!

[Tess]

Yawn yawn yawn. Same old same old! I'm getting to the point that I'm beginning to think if you don't like it then stop coming!
A lot of you are nailing the lid on the coffin.......and started months ago.
Give the club a chance. Why shouldn't we do it! There aren't many in our division who aren't. I expect if we hadn't gone into the DR scenario the same people moaning now would be moaning again!
Give Chambers a chance too! Poor guy. He doesn't deserve all the abuse that's been written on here. At least give him a few games before you start!
'RIP Swinton Lions' this thread says. Get behind the coach and the team. You're not going to change anything so put up with it or go support a team that suits your views and beliefs. Thankfully there are plenty of fans that don't believe the title of this thread!!

[wonderofwood]

Chambers is a first class coach and will do Swinton proud. The only concern the supporters should have is not WHO is currently playing for them but IF they can keep hold of these players for the next two / three years. You will see a number of super league scouts at your games week in week out. Most of these youngsters are on one year deals and they are the cream of the crop ( SO TO SPEAK) don't be surprised to see a number of them snatched at the end of the season. However now Smith has someone in charge at your place to nurture his babies and make sure they are doing the same as Warrington first team week in week and getting into their ears it might not be so bad . The team will do you proud and I just hope that the team can stay together for a long period of time because if they can Fev, Halifax and the likes will better take note.

[Tess]

Good post!
All our best players normally go to other teams at the end of the season anyway so there'll be no change there!!! (Must calm down on the !!!!!!!)