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#21 Severus

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:53 PM

And a serious one.

He's going to jail.

The daft thing is, had he just admitted it the original offence at the time he'd have been banned for a while and have been back on the road long, long ago.

The man is clearly an idiot.

As is his wife.
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#22 WearyRhino

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 02:26 PM

The man is clearly an idiot.


He's a Liberal Democrat.

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#23 Griff9of13

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:40 PM

And a serious one.

He's going to jail.

The daft thing is, had he just admitted it the original offence at the time he'd have been banned for a while and have been back on the road long, long ago.

The man is clearly an idiot.


Things like this really ought to lead to the MP automatically losing their seat. I don't say this from some high moral stand point. It is the sheer lack of judgement, as you've highlighted, that gets me. If they can get things like this so badly wrong how can they be expected to get the big decisions about running the country right?
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#24 Trojan

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:07 PM

And a serious one.

He's going to jail.

The daft thing is, had he just admitted it the original offence at the time he'd have been banned for a while and have been back on the road long, long ago.

The man is clearly an idiot.

My thoughts exactly.

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#25 Trojan

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:09 PM

it's a Tory led coalition, not a Labour one.

You can't leave it alone can you John. Just as a matter of record it was Jonathan Aitken and Jeffrey Archer who went to jail for perjury. I've no doubt they perjured themselves because they thought they'd get away with it. I wonder where they got that idea from?

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#26 gingerjon

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:16 PM

Things like this really ought to lead to the MP automatically losing their seat. I don't say this from some high moral stand point. It is the sheer lack of judgement, as you've highlighted, that gets me. If they can get things like this so badly wrong how can they be expected to get the big decisions about running the country right?


The odd thing being that even now Huhne could carry on being an MP.

John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud) was in prison and had to be persuaded to resign his seat. That was in the 70s. Bog all has been done to mean you can oust the buggers.
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#27 JohnM

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:19 PM

"I wonder where they got that idea from?"

Denis McShane? Jim Devine? Elliot Morley? Eric Joyce? Eric Illsley? David Chaytor? John Stonehouse?

#28 Griff9of13

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:47 PM

You can't leave it alone can you John. Just as a matter of record it was Jonathan Aitken and Jeffrey Archer who went to jail for perjury. I've no doubt they perjured themselves because they thought they'd get away with it. I wonder where they got that idea from?


"I wonder where they got that idea from?"

Denis McShane? Jim Devine? Elliot Morley? Eric Joyce? Eric Illsley? David Chaytor? John Stonehouse?


Trying to score party political points on MPs bad behaviour really is "two bald men fighting over a comb" <_<

Non of the major parties are exactly a beacon of morality.
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#29 Derwent

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:03 PM

The thing that struck me was although he pleaded guilty, outside the court he said he had taken responsibility for something that happened. Not something he did or something he was involved in, or even responsibility for his own actions, just responsibility for something that happened. It struck me as an odd way of describing it.

#30 Steve May

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

The thing that struck me was although he pleaded guilty, outside the court he said he had taken responsibility for something that happened. Not something he did or something he was involved in, or even responsibility for his own actions, just responsibility for something that happened. It struck me as an odd way of describing it.


Yes. He was also keen to mention how long ago it was.

I wasn't very convinced by it.

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#31 Steve May

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:30 PM

The odd thing being that even now Huhne could carry on being an MP.

John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud) was in prison and had to be persuaded to resign his seat. That was in the 70s. Bog all has been done to mean you can oust the buggers.


If you want to get party political about it, that should be "John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud, joined the Liberal Democrats)"

My own view is that all the mainstream parties have a fair share of idiots and crooks.

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#32 Trojan

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:32 PM

"I wonder where they got that idea from?"

Denis McShane? Jim Devine? Elliot Morley? Eric Joyce? Eric Illsley? David Chaytor? John Stonehouse?

None of whom perjured themselves and then brazenly said they'd "use the sword of truth" to destroy their accusers. They thought they'd get away with it because others, including Mark Thatcher had got away with corrupt practices in the past. The late Alistair Milne lost his job as DG of the Beeb due allegedly to witnesses in a libel trial being leant on by senior Tories. Labour may have done it and got caught, the Tories are past masters at manipulation and of course the old boy network can be used to cover a multitude of sins.

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#33 longboard

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

If you want to get party political about it, that should be "John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud, joined the Liberal Democrats)"

My own view is that all the mainstream parties have a fair share of idiots and crooks.


You could also include Steve, that he was a spy for a socialist regime, and an EDP, as well a SDP member.

Edited by longboard, 07 February 2013 - 09:23 PM.


#34 gingerjon

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:20 PM

If you want to get party political about it, that should be "John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud, joined the Liberal Democrats)"

My own view is that all the mainstream parties have a fair share of idiots and crooks.


They do indeed - I was more responding to Trojan's idea that unique amongst the parties Labour's can always be excused.

I didn't know that about Stonehouse though. I might have put it in otherwise.
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#35 gingerjon

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:22 PM

Yes. He was also keen to mention how long ago it was.

I wasn't very convinced by it.


The key issue now is how fragrant is the former Mrs Huhne.
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#36 Wolford6

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:45 PM

The key issue now is how fragrant is the former Mrs Huhne.


She's probably got more to lose than him. He will go to prison for six months, probably get out in three, and still be a milionaire. Whilst inside he will write his memoir and make another half a million.

She is a working economist who has lost her credibility, certainly as a TV pundit.
She hasn't helped herself by entering into a personal relationship with Denis McShane.

I hope she's got a good pension.

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#37 longboard

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:25 PM

This is a tragedy in the classical sense of a man and a woman brought down by their weaknesses.

A speeding ticket for pity's sake!

#38 JohnM

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:27 PM

If you want to get party political about it, that should be "John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud, joined the Liberal Democrats)"

My own view is that all the mainstream parties have a fair share of idiots and crooks.


agree entirely....and probably the not so mainstream ones too. Its a do as I say not do as I do world.

#39 Steve May

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 08:03 AM

The key issue now is how fragrant is the former Mrs Huhne.


Nice.

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#40 longboard

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:32 PM

My own view is that all the mainstream parties have a fair share of idiots and crooks.


In that respect they are representative of society.




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