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RFL statement on Kylie Leuluai

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#1 Honor James

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:23 AM

The RFL has been informed by the UK Border Agency that under the terms of his visa, Kylie Leuluai of Leeds Rhinos is unable to play for Hunslet Hawks as a dual-registered player.

The RFL has recently lobbied the UKBA for a change to the rules which prevent players on Tier 2 visas playing for a second club on a short-term arrangement. This follows on from changes to the Super League Academy structure, which from 2013 is an exclusively under-19s competition, an arrangement that means open-age overseas Tier 2 visa players returning from injury cannot gain match fitness on short-term loans or dual registrations.

Dialogue with the UKBA continues but the UKBA have confirmed that until any change in circumstance is agreed, under existing provisions no player on a Tier 2 visa can be dual registered.
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#2 Derwent

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:32 AM

Better hope no overseas players get injuries cos they'll have nowhere to play to get back to fitness, it'll be SL or nothing. Shame that.

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#3 guess who

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:32 AM

What a shame for Hunslet. All that planning for the weekend just gone up in smoke.

#4 gazza77

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:33 AM

Doh. :lol:

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#5 hindle xiii

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:34 AM

Better hope no overseas players get injuries cos they'll have nowhere to play to get back to fitness, it'll be SL or nothing. Shame that.

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#6 hindle xiii

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:36 AM

I was disappointed it wasn't;

RFL statement on Kylie Leuluai

Kylie is a girls' name.

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#7 Viking Warrior

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:43 AM

i agree as part of widnes deal with workington, none of our over seas players can go on dual reg apart from magraff leuleuai because he was born in wakefield...
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#8 The Parksider

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:57 AM

What a shame for Hunslet. All that planning for the weekend just gone up in smoke.


Just wait on before you crow.

Hetherington may be putting through a full takeover through companies house as we speak.

Kylie may yet get to play for "his club" Sunday.

#9 Derwent

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:03 AM

Just wait on before you crow.

Hetherington may be putting through a full takeover through companies house as we speak.

Kylie may yet get to play for "his club" Sunday.


Wouldn't matter, the visa states they can only work for a specific sponsoring employer. Hunslet are not his employer, he has no contract with them.

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#10 Blackpool Hawk

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:15 AM

With Gary Heatherington controlling Leeds, Hunslet, the RFL and Westminster, you would have thought that he could have got around this :rolleyes:

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#11 hindle xiii

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:17 AM

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#12 The Parksider

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:49 AM

Hunslet are not his employer, he has no contract with them.


My little joke about Leeds buying up Hunslet fell a bit flat then :(

#13 Ackroman

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 11:07 AM

Big hint that the RFL feel the DR system is a dogs breakfast if they have to release a statement that "a player can't turnout this weekend".

#14 intheshed

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:15 PM

Big hint that the RFL feel the DR system is a dogs breakfast if they have to release a statement that "a player can't turnout this weekend".


Not sure I'd agree with that view, to be honest. It seems to me to suggest that they are entirely comfortable with how DR is being used. Contrary to the view that using Wood, Mccarthy, Leuluai, Moore, Gardner etc... is against the spirit of the DR system and not what it was intended for, the fact the the RFL has been lobbying UKBA to allow quota players to be involved suggests to me that this is exactly what those who designed and implemented it wanted and envisaged.

#15 Bomb Jack

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:33 PM

What was wrong with the old A-Team system?
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#16 hindle xiii

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:39 PM

What was wrong with the old A-Team system?

Heh. I ain't getting on no plane.

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#17 Tonka

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:12 PM

In a statement, an RFL spokesman said: "The UKBA have confirmed that until any change in circumstance is agreed, under existing provisions no player on a Tier 2 visa can be dual registered."


"Can our Kylie play for Hunslet?"

"Yes, that's fine."

Job done.

#18 Simon Hall

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:16 PM

Not sure I'd agree with that view, to be honest. It seems to me to suggest that they are entirely comfortable with how DR is being used. Contrary to the view that using Wood, Mccarthy, Leuluai, Moore, Gardner etc... is against the spirit of the DR system and not what it was intended for, the fact the the RFL has been lobbying UKBA to allow quota players to be involved suggests to me that this is exactly what those who designed and implemented it wanted and envisaged.


You're spot on there.

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#19 Wolford6

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:26 PM

Perhaps I'm slow on the uptake, but

- Kylie Leuluai is a Leeds-registered player and his paid a wage by the Leeds Rhinos.
- Why can't he play for Hunslet as an unpaid player?
- If he has a right to be in the country, how can anyone stop him playing amateur sport?

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#20 Tonka

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:31 PM

What was wrong with the old A-Team system?


Nothing. You can stick anyone you like in it.





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