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#1 joe elliot

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:48 PM

It's occurred to me that stopping the biff in games is actually harming the game. As people are now following MMA in their droves why are we trying to turn our game into something it is not.
The more the referee's give silly pedantic penalty's and send people off for a bit of fisticuffs the more they are actually turning people off the sport.
If we want our professional athletes to go the way of footballers and start trying to win penalty's then we just carry on as we are. However if we let more go then our players will stay playing the game as men, and not lower themselves to petty acts

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#2 hindle xiii

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:51 PM

Probably so it doesn't filter down to under 8's who think it's ok to punch someone in the face after they've played the ball.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:53 PM

Probably so it doesn't filter down to under 8's who think it's ok to punch someone in the face after they've played the ball.

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#4 Saint Billinge

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:55 PM

The jury is out on this one! Handbag swipes, sly play, thuggery, a bit of biff, where do you draw the line. One 'minor' punch can lead to a mass brawl.

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#5 1976PMJwires

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:00 PM

I'm all for one on one, yes this leads to a few others joining in, that's life....... It's a mans game, it doesn't need the hand baggers running in who don't actually join in, stand there acting, makes me pisssss

#6 Northern Sol

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:04 PM

Because RL isn't a martial art and nor should it be.

#7 Odsal Outlaw

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:02 PM

It's occurred to me that stopping the biff in games is actually harming the game. As people are now following MMA in their droves why are we trying to turn our game into something it is not.
The more the referee's give silly pedantic penalty's and send people off for a bit of fisticuffs the more they are actually turning people off the sport.
If we want our professional athletes to go the way of footballers and start trying to win penalty's then we just carry on as we are. However if we let more go then our players will stay playing the game as men, and not lower themselves to petty acts


Agreed, bring back the biff!!!!

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#8 Marauder

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:46 PM

The jury is out on this one! Handbag swipes, sly play, thuggery, a bit of biff, where do you draw the line. One 'minor' punch can lead to a mass brawl.

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#9 Just to be clear

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:50 AM

It's occurred to me that stopping the biff in games is actually harming the game. As people are now following MMA in their droves why are we trying to turn our game into something it is not.
The more the referee's give silly pedantic penalty's and send people off for a bit of fisticuffs the more they are actually turning people off the sport.


Just to be clear, anyone who specifically gives up rugby league for MMA was never a rugby fan anyway.

If fighting is more important to someone than ball handling, running, kicking, wearing down defences, and actual rugby then it is amazing they ever watched it in the first place.

Fighting is such a small part of our game that in most matches it does happen anyway. But when it does it is nowhere near a standard that will be of interested to fans of boxing or martial arts.

#10 roughyedspud

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:22 AM

nowt wrong with the odd scrap...but when the decend into actual running battles after every other play the ball and start calling each other out for fights..like these




then thats when it gets silly..

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#11 BBR

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:32 AM

Like it or not it is the first thing that will grab the attention of kids watching on tv. There seems to have been a huge reduction in brawls in recent years. The balance is prob about right. Maybe each side cpuld nominate one player for a half time regulared fight ha.

#12 gingerjon

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:16 AM

Maybe each side cpuld nominate one player for a half time regulared fight ha.


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#13 gingerjon

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:16 AM

If fighting is more important to someone than ball handling, running, kicking, wearing down defences, and actual rugby then it is amazing they ever watched it in the first place.


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#14 nec

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:59 AM

The quickest way to cut off the supply of new players is to give parents the impression that the sport they are taking their child to play is one step removed from brawling in the street.
Rugby League is a sport that desperately needs to expand its geographical supporter base and its player base. This imperative means that all other requirements are secondary until this is done.

All power in the game should be with governing bodies, especially international governing bodies.

Without these actions we will remain a minor sport internationally and nationally.

#15 hindle xiii

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:07 AM

The quickest way to cut off the supply of new players is to give parents the impression that the sport they are taking their child to play is one step removed from brawling in the street.

Saying that, there are some horribly abusive parents around at junior rugby.

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#16 Wolford6

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:13 AM

As a former kids' coach, I can assure you that the last thing that most parents and junior players want to see or experience is bullying and punching.

Quite right too.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:42 PM

Saying that, there are some horribly abusive parents around at junior rugby.

This will also put off otherparents
Rugby League is a sport that desperately needs to expand its geographical supporter base and its player base. This imperative means that all other requirements are secondary until this is done.

All power in the game should be with governing bodies, especially international governing bodies.

Without these actions we will remain a minor sport internationally and nationally.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:51 PM

It's occurred to me that stopping the biff in games is actually harming the game. As people are now following MMA in their droves why are we trying to turn our game into something it is not.

If people are genuinely more interested in bare fist boxing than rugby they are following rugby for the wrong reasons.

The more the referee's give silly pedantic penalty's and send people off for a bit of fisticuffs the more they are actually turning people off the sport.

Cleaning up the sport in this way has been partly responsible for the increase in popularity. The same has happned in other sports.

If we want our professional athletes to go the way of footballers and start trying to win penalty's then we just carry on as we are. However if we let more go then our players will stay playing the game as men, and not lower themselves to petty acts


Rugby players already play for penalties and have done for a long time, it is clearly not as prevalent as in football but it has been there for decades.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:54 PM

Don't get me wrong, I love a good punch up at a match, but wouldn't want to see it happen every week

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#20 Walter Ego

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:49 PM

That video of Tonga is disgusting. Particularly at the 2:24 mark with Tonga's 14 swinging at a man that clearly can't hit back.

As a heated physical contest fights are almost guaranteed to break out once in a while and as a fan I must admit I lap it up. However it should always be punished aggressively and clamped down on. As has already been said it's a contact sport not a combat sport and anything that breaks the rules shouldn't be encouraged.




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