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#81 DAZROVER1985

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:49 PM

No Terry you don't have to beat SL attendances, you have to average 2,500 and your well on the way.

Do take strong note that attendances are often affected by winning and losing, so you need to keep winning and take that into SL.

if London doesn't average over 2500 this season then that criteria will be void, the rfl won't be able to set criteria that are not being met by current super league clubs. This happened in union when they tried stopping London welsh being promoted on the basis of not meeting criteria but the criteria wasn't being met by teams already in the top flight.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:23 PM

if London doesn't average over 2500 this season then that criteria will be void, the rfl won't be able to set criteria that are not being met by current super league clubs. This happened in union when they tried stopping London welsh being promoted on the basis of not meeting criteria but the criteria wasn't being met by teams already in the top flight.

Have the RFL set the criterion for the next round of licences? I can't recall anything from the RFL stating what the minimum requirement is for a Championship club to apply for a licence.

#83 DAZROVER1985

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:35 PM

Have the RFL set the criterion for the next round of licences? I can't recall anything from the RFL stating what the minimum requirement is for a Championship club to apply for a licence.

not sure if anythings changed from the previous licence criteria, but this is the rfl it could change anytime and we will be the last to know.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:54 PM

not sure if anythings changed from the previous licence criteria, but this is the rfl it could change anytime and we will be the last to know.

You would have thought th RFL would be very clear on the criteria, even if it's only to confirm the requirements remain the same. Hopefully the clubs are aware.

#85 JohnM

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:54 PM

see http://www.therfl.co.../licensing_faqs for the previous round. Of course, it might be that the RFL increase the minimum qualifying attendances to keep Fev out. :rolleyes:

Will a club from the Championship definitely be awarded a licence?

Yes, at least one Championship club will be awarded a Super League licence, provided it meets the minimum criteria. The minimum criteria for a Championship club to be awarded a Super League licence are:
a. Club has reached a Championship Final or won the Northern Rail Cup in 2009 or 2010.
b. Club has a stadium with an operational capacity of 10,000.
c. Club has turnover of at least £1,000,000 in financial year ending 2009 or 2010 (turnover of charitable Foundation can be included in this figure).
d. Club has an average attendance of at least 2500 in 2009 or 2010.
Those applicant clubs from the Championship that meet the minimum criteria will then be assessed and the RFL will allocate a Super League licence to the most suitable club.

Will a Super League club be “displaced”?

At this stage the Super League will remain at 14 clubs in 2012. If a Championship Club meets the minimum criteria and the Super League competition remains at 14 clubs, a Super League club will be displaced.

#86 a.n Other

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:06 PM

see http://www.therfl.co.../licensing_faqs for the previous round. Of course, it might be that the RFL increase the minimum qualifying attendances to keep Fev out. :rolleyes:

Will a club from the Championship definitely be awarded a licence?

Yes, at least one Championship club will be awarded a Super League licence, provided it meets the minimum criteria. The minimum criteria for a Championship club to be awarded a Super League licence are:
a. Club has reached a Championship Final or won the Northern Rail Cup in 2009 or 2010.
b. Club has a stadium with an operational capacity of 10,000.
c. Club has turnover of at least £1,000,000 in financial year ending 2009 or 2010 (turnover of charitable Foundation can be included in this figure).
d. Club has an average attendance of at least 2500 in 2009 or 2010.
Those applicant clubs from the Championship that meet the minimum criteria will then be assessed and the RFL will allocate a Super League licence to the most suitable club.

Will a Super League club be “displaced”?

At this stage the Super League will remain at 14 clubs in 2012. If a Championship Club meets the minimum criteria and the Super League competition remains at 14 clubs, a Super League club will be displaced.

Most people are aware of what they were for the last round, it's the criteria for the next set of licences that is needed, or confirmation they remain the same. Do you know?

#87 Ackroman

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:20 PM

I think Fev's attendances are fantastic. I think London, Salford and Bradford have a lot to worry about on that front.

#88 Matt J

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:25 PM

I think Fev's attendances are fantastic. I think London, Salford and Bradford have a lot to worry about on that front.


Were just about averaging 2500 now, maybe 2400, compared to when Mark Campbell took over, our average attendance was around 1100 (I think). Done well to get these people back into the club and whats more encouraging the amount of young people around the ground on match day.

Cummins Out.


#89 matt newsholme

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:17 PM

I think Fev's attendances are fantastic. I think London, Salford and Bradford have a lot to worry about on that front.


Don't think Bradford have a problem attendance wise. Average over three home games so far is 8700ish with two of those games being low attendances due to external factors ( both sat afternoons, one on sky and other same weekend as Bradford city's Wembley appearance). Expect our average over the full season to still be over the 10k mark.

#90 Lobbygobbler

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:53 PM

No Terry you don't have to beat SL attendances, you have to average 2,500 and your well on the way.

Do take strong note that attendances are often affected by winning and losing, so you need to keep winning and take that into SL.


Attendances are even more affected by the fact that there is no proper promotion. Fev would be getting perhaps 5k if the best team went up

#91 JohnM

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:02 PM

:( :( :( no they wouldn't. In any case, the best team WILL go up, as you know.

#92 The Parksider

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:12 AM

if London doesn't average over 2500 this season then that criteria will be void, the rfl won't be able to set criteria that are not being met by current super league clubs. This happened in union when they tried stopping London welsh being promoted on the basis of not meeting criteria but the criteria wasn't being met by teams already in the top flight.


That's a good point.....

#93 The Parksider

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:17 AM

Attendances are even more affected by the fact that there is no proper promotion. Fev would be getting perhaps 5k if the best team went up


They never got 5,000 even when winning in the top tier.

Your club Leigh were promoted on 2,166.

Why do you make stuff up??

#94 Griff

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:13 AM

It's easy to have an opinion then state it as fact.
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#95 Griff

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:19 AM

Anybody who got Rugby League World last month might like to spend a few minutes looking through the jolly interesting graphs of attendances. Most of the clubs' attendances are up over the period since 1996. London's aren't. Widnes virtually unchanging in their five seasons. Ditto Salford over a longer period. Leeds on a surprising downward trend since 2007.
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#96 The Parksider

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:32 AM

Leeds on a surprising downward trend since 2007.


Anyone any ideas why?

#97 Les Tonks Sidestep

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:38 AM

Anyone any ideas why?


Maybe it's all those ex Hunslet/Bramley supporters you claim have switched allegience realising the errors of their ways?

#98 longboard

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:53 AM

Anyone any ideas why?


Something to do with the age profile of the supporters?

#99 The Parksider

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 12:12 PM

Maybe it's all those ex Hunslet/Bramley supporters you claim have switched allegience realising the errors of their ways?


I've not met many that have switched alliegance, I do know of many who have come into the game to support it as a fan on the terrace who have been from traditional areas of Leeds where Hunslet and Bramley used to get their support base from. Instead of choosing to go to the small local club, they have been attracted to go watch Leeds instead.

That repeats across the north and may explain why championship crowds continue to decline.

As for "errors of their ways" nobody makes an "error" by choosing who they want to support. There are of course plenty on here who would pass laws to prevent anyone watching any club other than their local one.

#100 Lobbygobbler

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:00 PM

They never got 5,000 even when winning in the top tier.


In the semi pro era when Leeds, Saints and Wire all got similar crowds. If their crowds have doubled, or trebled since then, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that Fevs crowds in the modern era would be much more than they got in the 80s




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