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#41 jaguar

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:50 PM

Hopfully to run a winter NCL then clubs would have a choice instead of being told tuff we are summer now stop moaning and get on with it

What? That old chestnut! They tried that last year and no-one was interested. But, you never know, things might change.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:58 PM

which districts were there?


This was the third meeting of the District leagues over the last few months, the original meeting was called by the Leeds & Cas/Fev districts because of concern over the RFL not going through the agreed channels on certain subjects, these meetings have started to gain support from the district leagues with every meeting (2nd meeting was attended by David Gent)

A few items have been highlighted has to why things have seemed to be going wrong within the association and the main one seemed to be communications or the lack of it.

It was also noted that some of the people who where/are district secretaries now aligned with areas who have gone along with the RFL and summer rugbyand have stopped communicating with their clubs.

After the 100% vote not to form a working group from the district leagues and give BARLA their full backing It was highlighted that the districts need to start attending BARLA meetings again because this is where democratic decisions are made, It's looking like the system within BARLA will be starting to work again and this will only lead to a stronger organised association.

13 districts & 1 independent observer where in attendance with apologise coming from 4 others at the last meeting.

Edited by Marauder, 01 March 2013 - 12:00 AM.

Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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#43 Marauder

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 12:04 AM

Duke , Peter and Trevor are not on the Community Board to represent the NCL .

I've noticed on the Community board page on the RFL website the BARLA member of the Community board has been airbrushed out :o
Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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#44 Marauder

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 12:21 AM

What? That old chestnut! They tried that last year and no-one was interested. But, you never know, things might change.

You sure that no one was interested ?

I know differently and BARLA like the RFL got caught out by the amount of clubs that switched seasons, It was only really muted about a BARLA Conference again when NCL clubs started to voice a concern about summer, this concern grew has the summer season went on (BARLA are keeping the ID of the clubs a secret simply because they don't want the RFL putting pressure onto them)

Lets not forget the old chestnut why the first summer season was a disaster (it takes time to change the concept and it will get better, honest) and BARLA do not want to rush into a disaster.
Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:38 AM

Jim,
I like many others have little or no faith in the current Board at Bara they have sat back and done nothing to fight the RFL spin and they have plenty of ammunition to do so .
Ask any Board member the last time they attended a regional youth and junior meeting or indeed held one ?
Only Stu Prior shows any genuine desire for the game and they tried to boot him out of the wilderness because he dared to try and communicate and work with the RFL for the benefit of BARLA .
They removed him as CB rep after only 12 months with the " chair " justifying the move that they need fresh ideas and replaced him with Malcolm Sellars who lasted one meeting , Stu is now back on the CB as the BARLA rep hardly inspiring is it .
We have had the same Youth and Junior chair for several years and in that time Barla has lost the support of several of its regions at Y&J Leagues ,does the chair advocate a new chair with fresh ideas ? NO they dont even try to communicate with us any more so what is the Youth and Junior Chair actually chair of ?

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:06 AM

You sure that no one was interested ?

I know differently and BARLA like the RFL got caught out by the amount of clubs that switched seasons, It was only really muted about a BARLA Conference again when NCL clubs started to voice a concern about summer, this concern grew has the summer season went on (BARLA are keeping the ID of the clubs a secret simply because they don't want the RFL putting pressure onto them)

Lets not forget the old chestnut why the first summer season was a disaster (it takes time to change the concept and it will get better, honest) and BARLA do not want to rush into a disaster.


Barla asked which clubs wanted a competition run on the lines of winter ncl and suprise suprise there wasnt enough clubs who wanted it now you say clubs arent happy ive asked beofre who are all these clubs which tell you they arent happy but sont really seem to want to change.

What pressure can the RFL put on clubs wanting to change to winter, i would presume a club would want to switch becuase there players want to switch back what are you saying the clubs go bakc and sya to there players we cant change as the RFL are putting pressure to stop in summer.

Does anybody know of any teams which would prefer to play in winter but wont switch because they want to stay in the NCL league.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:26 AM

You sure that no one was interested ?

I know differently and BARLA like the RFL got caught out by the amount of clubs that switched seasons, It was only really muted about a BARLA Conference again when NCL clubs started to voice a concern about summer, this concern grew has the summer season went on (BARLA are keeping the ID of the clubs a secret simply because they don't want the RFL putting pressure onto them)

Lets not forget the old chestnut why the first summer season was a disaster (it takes time to change the concept and it will get better, honest) and BARLA do not want to rush into a disaster.


On the off chance that some NCL clubs would prefer to play summer; the problem lies in the fact that they wouldnt leave the NCL to play in a league run by BARLA.

#48 Marauder

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:38 AM

Jim,
I like many others have little or no faith in the current Board at Bara they have sat back and done nothing to fight the RFL spin and they have plenty of ammunition to do so .
Ask any Board member the last time they attended a regional youth and junior meeting or indeed held one ?
Only Stu Prior shows any genuine desire for the game and they tried to boot him out of the wilderness because he dared to try and communicate and work with the RFL for the benefit of BARLA .
They removed him as CB rep after only 12 months with the " chair " justifying the move that they need fresh ideas and replaced him with Malcolm Sellars who lasted one meeting , Stu is now back on the CB as the BARLA rep hardly inspiring is it .
We have had the same Youth and Junior chair for several years and in that time Barla has lost the support of several of its regions at Y&J Leagues ,does the chair advocate a new chair with fresh ideas ? NO they dont even try to communicate with us any more so what is the Youth and Junior Chair actually chair of ?

These reasons are partly why the district leagues have started meeting, we've (Or most) have sat back and either allowed the associations to drift into what it has become or recently jumped ship to fuel egos in the promised land, It is the intention of the district leagues to now do what they where supposed to do and allow the BARLA committee to steer the ship, most of us have to take some blame for allowing BARLA to become a toothless Tiger, Lets put the house in order, supply a playing standard and a organised structure to equal it and lets see what happens over the next few years.

Has the saying goes, United we stand, Divided we fall.
Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:43 AM

On the off chance that some NCL clubs would prefer to play summer; the problem lies in the fact that they wouldnt leave the NCL to play in a league run by BARLA.

Thats OK, BARLA as a association have never put anything in the way of anyone wanting to play in the summer & if you haven't noticed the RFL have expanded the NCL to soften any blows received that a switch back by clubs may have, it has also placed a few expansion clubs on standby with a tier 3 Southern conference.

The Yorkshire league where brilliant with us while we played, I'd like to say that one of the main stalwarts for the winter (Kenny Tinsdale) bent over backwards and also refereed many summer games.

Edited by Marauder, 01 March 2013 - 09:47 AM.

Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:52 AM

Sorry Longman for going on but the reason for securing a 3 year deal is to protect against cut backs, i can only imagine that the RFL would have enough cash to honour any deal struck up with the NCL over a 3 year deal,

i understand and agree clubs can march on without it im just qeustioning could a better deal have been done ( i would class my comments as a debate not mooning about summer before someone buts in)

Travel expense in the summer will go up between £50 & £100 a coach, the availability to hire one also becomes harder, we had to book at the start of the season for our league games but struggled when it came to the play-offs.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:54 AM

Perhaps the RFL knew there was a funding cut coming and would only negotiate a 1 year deal until the funding announcements had been made

I don't think Peter would have bought that one, he has been around far to long.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:01 AM

Barla asked which clubs wanted a competition run on the lines of winter ncl and suprise suprise there wasnt enough clubs who wanted it now you say clubs arent happy ive asked beofre who are all these clubs which tell you they arent happy but sont really seem to want to change.

What pressure can the RFL put on clubs wanting to change to winter, i would presume a club would want to switch becuase there players want to switch back what are you saying the clubs go bakc and sya to there players we cant change as the RFL are putting pressure to stop in summer.

Does anybody know of any teams which would prefer to play in winter but wont switch because they want to stay in the NCL league.

Barla asked which clubs wanted a competition run on the lines of winter ncl and suprise suprise there wasnt enough clubs who wanted it now you say clubs arent happy ive asked beofre who are all these clubs which tell you they arent happy but sont really seem to want to change.

What pressure can the RFL put on clubs wanting to change to winter, i would presume a club would want to switch becuase there players want to switch back what are you saying the clubs go bakc and sya to there players we cant change as the RFL are putting pressure to stop in summer.

Does anybody know of any teams which would prefer to play in winter but wont switch because they want to stay in the NCL league.


Committees and players work hard to get in the NCL as they see this as the flag ship of rugby League, so clubs of course would be nervas of beeing left in the wilderness and not having a similar standard and well run organisation to go to.
im not very knowledgeable about the the running of Barla and how things are run, Community districts ect but its clear that poeples personalities are clashing and harming the game overhall.

is it behond the bounds of possibility that Barla could run a Winter NCL so clubs have a real choice?

reference who would join, i think there were ten clubs who voted agaist summer it in the first place so that would be a good start,

Edited by sbull, 01 March 2013 - 11:22 AM.





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