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castleford in the mire?


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#41 sweaty craiq

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:03 AM

Good luck Cas, to drop from FT to PT for a min of 3 years is a hole few would return from - a second FT tier allows rebuilding both up and down.

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#42 Ponterover

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:12 AM

I was referring more to this quote



But I do now realise it was on the other Cas thread so apologies


Aye, we'll have to wait and see about that one. And I genuinely hope it doesn't come to it.

#43 Ackroman

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:59 AM

Good luck Cas, to drop from FT to PT for a min of 3 years is a hole few would return from - a second FT tier allows rebuilding both up and down.


I think circumstances are starting to potentially dictate this happening. London, Cas, Salford, Bradford (on half dough), Fev, Halifax, Sheff, Leigh and possibly Widnes plus ano would make a good 2nd tier that was affordable.

If WCC is expanded then Super League would be just that.

#44 Ackroman

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:00 AM

I suggest you check out your own back catalogue for a bit of double irony


Bearing in mind your 36 times more likely to have shown double standards I have nothing to worry about.

#45 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:32 AM

Bearing in mind your 36 times more likely to have shown double standards I have nothing to worry about.


cracking logic.

I'm glad you have nothing to worry about, apart from perhaps lacking an iota of self appraisal.
Good luck with that.
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#46 chuffer

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:34 AM

Christ there's nothing like a throw-away comment to inspire a boat-load of pedantry and bickering.......please feel free to untwist your under-garments (you know who you are)

#47 West Country Eagle

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:36 AM

This just in: someone has resigned from something.

in other news: the world continues to turn on its axis


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Sorry, Massive Attack's "Hymn of the Big Wheel" just popped into my head.
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#48 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:40 AM

"One man struggles, while another relaxes"

Sorry, Massive Attack's "Hymn of the Big Wheel" just popped into my head.

well played :D
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#49 The Parksider

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

I keep saying this but owning your own ground isn't the panacea you'd think it was. If I needed a van for a couple of weeks a year, would I buy one or rent one ? Hmmmm....


Point cheerfully taken and now you indicate a need to consider renting something as part of the 2015 licence. Now where in the WDMC district will such a stadium be available 2015?

#50 The Parksider

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:16 PM

Bearing in mind your 36 times more likely to have shown double standards I have nothing to worry about.


A big welcome back to the board. I missed you.

Great point above. I can see how introducing Aussie clubs into a pre-season WCC tournament that could underpin a 10 club SL first division, can allow 10 more clubs to function as a full time second division.

Two problems. Firstly it's been reported the NRL will not compromise their league to help SL although Hetherington has apparently gone to ask the question. Wether he's only gone there to be able to blame the Aussies WHEN 2 x 10 doesn't happen I dunno.

Secondly in this modern era when everyone wants the best of everything, how will clubs prosper in a "second tier" when the current recordis a second tier being reduced to "A" teams??

That's all off topic, and back on topic the question of Castleford sharing Newmarket must arise here???

#51 boxhead

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:18 PM

Edited

Edited by AndyCapp, 28 February 2013 - 12:26 PM.


#52 Griff

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:27 PM

Point cheerfully taken and now you indicate a need to consider renting something as part of the 2015 licence. Now where in the WDMC district will such a stadium be available 2015?


I wouldn't necessarily go that far but it's something to be considered. Safety work can be a millstone round your neck. It's not cheap.
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#53 Kenilworth Tiger

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:14 PM

Aye, we'll have to wait and see about that one. And I genuinely hope it doesn't come to it.


So you don;t know then?

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Now then, it's a race between Sandie....and Fairburn....and the little man is in........yeees he's in.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:23 PM

This I agree with. How about appointing someone with commercial experience who also knows a bit about RL rather than "jobs for the boys"?


Probably because someone with proper qualifications in this area would cost an awful lot more than Fozzy

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#55 The Parksider

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:25 PM

I wouldn't necessarily go that far but it's something to be considered. Safety work can be a millstone round your neck. It's not cheap.


As far back as 1973 when Parkside was sold one of the big reasons verified by Harry Jepson who had left and had no financial interest in the sale, was the massive bills for repairs and this was before the safety of sports grounds regulations.

Even last year the cost of maintaining Odsal was a millstone around Bradford's neck and a reason the RFL taking it on to help.

Ferress himself widely mentioned this along with the cost not just of safety and repair, but the cost of vandalism.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:31 PM

Yes, it's nice to have a big land asset on your balance sheet but it's not cash until you sell it.

However, you can borrow money on the strength of it and dig yourself a big debt hole. :wacko:

No figures available but it'd be interesting to compare what clubs are paying for rent, compare with what clubs are spending on maintenance.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:10 PM

There will be competition for your license next time, as a fan of the club looking to come up, I am naturally very interested in the happenings at what I perceive to be Super League's weakest club.


"Wakefield Trinity Wildcats face a six-figure hole in their budget after their main sponsor Eric France went bust"

Just released today.

Rovers now in pole position?

#58 Griff

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:15 PM

"Wakefield Trinity Wildcats face a six-figure hole in their budget after their main sponsor Eric France went bust"

Just released today.

Rovers now in pole position?


Wakefield have a year to get someone else - so, no. Wait and see.
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#59 Ponterover

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:38 PM

"Wakefield Trinity Wildcats face a six-figure hole in their budget after their main sponsor Eric France went bust"

Just released today.

Rovers now in pole position?


Don't think Wakey will have too much trouble finding a replacement, 9000+ crowds, decent on-field performances, good vibe about the club.

I'm more worried about the effect it will have on Dewsbury

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#60 keighley

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:23 PM

people have to feed house and clothe their familie: that is where peoples' committment and loyalty is supposed to lie. Not showing committment and loyalty at work is when people don't do their work properly. There is no evidence that this is the case.

There is no evidence they were about to be fired either. There are different levels of loyalty in life and I would agree famity comes first. Conversly loyalty to your employer is important. My own personal decision would have been to wait it out, help Castleford to the best of my ability and hope for the best outcome. The example of Potter at Bradford comes to mind, although, in this case here the employees were still being paid.




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